Message from @shinsoo
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"Mail bomb" sender Cesar Sayoc priors:
03- Bomb threat
+many traffic & drug arrests
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So was this guy sending bombs for Trump in 2003 as well
Sayoc Tweeted Regularly of His Belief that Florida Gubernatorial Candidate Andrew Gillum.
Political Commentator Rochelle Ritchie Says Sayoc Sent Her Threatening Messages After She Appeared on Fox.
I'm not willing to accept that all members of those groups are violent. BLM started because of the killing of blacks.
BLM started because media reporting on black killing was disproportionate to the crimes.
Cat, no #BLM not violent, they just get other to do it. Like Sein Feine and the IRA. Separate groups wink wink.
okay, fine I'll take BLM out of that.
You still have Antifa and BAMN.
And still haven't given me a rightwing mainstream group to compare.
Which is what your initial claim was above that I am faulting.
A white cop killing a black man is 1000x more likely to get aired than black on black. Because there is a story attached to it.
Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, Patriot Prayer
there are plenty of groups which are ready for violence and frequently get into fights
@shinsoo Not one of those groups is mainstream accepted by the right, nor praised by them for their violent actions.
neither is BAMN
and antifa isn't even an organised group to be accepted
BAMN is tiny. insane, but tiny.
Better go look at old news articles again. BAMN and Antifa were both HUGELY praised by the mainstream media until the groups went too far in specific situations (like when antifa violently attacked a disabled veteran).
Also EXTREMELY odd: of his 1,223 tweets, there has NEVER been a retweet or comment essentially before TODAY. In most cases his posts are incoherent or unintelligible, sometimes posting the same graphic/meme up to 8 times per day. Like he was on a quota......
The Republicans had a resistance movement during Obama. The Dems have one now. Resisters are praised until it gets violent. Then they are (or should be) condemned
like he was unstable
I'd say it's not an apples to apples comparison of what the mainstream left and right "support". I think it probably seems like "the left" runs defense more often for violent groups because there's more left-leaning media. I haven't seen much other than "antifa started it" from right-leaning outlets like Fox or Breitbart
Anyway, I don't condone violence or threats of violence on any pole. Which is why I feel distressed when my own President advocates for violence.
@DrYuriMom Which group? That's all I keep asking. I still haven't heard one legitimate mainstream group on the right. I keep hearing fringe groups being compared to it and that's all.
I can't name any because there are no "mainstream" ones. Just like there aren't on the left. When they get violent, they aren't mainstream anymore.
Antifa was mainstream though. There's absolutely no doubt about that.
they've only fallen from grace because they crossed MANY lines, and even now they have a clear presence.
Yes. And there is nothing wrong with resistance to fascism.
except that's not what they really represented. So don't give me that line.
But violence is wrong
That being said, I've made my point, thank you.
That's what they represented to me, but perhaps I am naive
antifa was only supported by the mainstream as long as it was legitimately antifascist
whenever innocent people were attacked, they were condemned
Antifa is Anti-Fascist in name only.
When you rally and riot to "SHUT IT DOWN" at free speech events, how are you anything BUT a fascist?
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shutting down nazi rallies isn't fascist
@DrYuriMom is fascism bad or were there simply bad fascists?
It is like, is communism bad intentioned or were there simply bad communists?
Tom, I don't believe the vast, overwhelming majority of either Dems or Reps believe that violence is a legitimate tool.
Oh, you mean the NAZI RALLY that was a Jewish member of the right trying to speak on a college campus?
That damn Jewish Nazi