Message from @JustTom
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We have all been ridiculed for existence. Chill ...
What do you mean, you have a right to exist as you see fit?
I think the majority of the judges on European Court on Human Rights are woke.
Styx reports they jail folks for islamophobia, <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs5SyBldAcA>
But they forced Norway, a non EU country, to return Anders Bering Breivik’s playstation and restore his internet access in jail.
Im fine with people disliking me for merely existing
Its their right to do so
I'd rather people not deny my right to marry, though
By all means, go ahead and marry
Rejecting the existence of my family stung
People can not like me. I'm fine with that.
But let me live my life, please. Let my kids grow up, please.
Tom, Christian Identity has never had much support outside the fringe. But then again, violence on the left is rejected by the center as well.
But Christian Identity did give us the second worse terrorist attack on US soil after 9/11.
@DrYuriMom Yeah, looks like from the information I've quickly gathered on that group, they fit the bill in some ways. Although it looks like they've never been as mainstream accepted as Antifa, and they are a group that modern times has quickly left behind, generally references to them occuring starting as early as the 1920s and 30s, but largely being dropped off the map entirely by the 90s. Which makes them more akin to a long standing hate group that never gained mainstream traction, and rather was a fringe hate group.
I would agree with that assessment
Good good. As I said, I am doing research on the fly here.
We still have people like the Westboro Baptist Church
So if I say anything wrong, please do correct me.
But while a lot of people want to pummel them, only their words are violent
No, but seriously, I've heard the "right to exist" thing several times now, and I honestly don't know what that line means. My brain wants to say that means they want you to die, but I know that's not what they're saying.
Yeah, that's really what Westboro comes down to. They're absolutely NOT mainstream. Most people hate them.
Vast majority.
I've been told it would be better for the country if me and everyone like me were to die
The whole fault I had was Antifa was very clearly supported by the mainstream for a time.
Even the people who say they have a right to their demonstrations hate them.
I've pointed out GLBT suicide rates and been told, "That's good"
70%ish profess to be Christian, so one should look at these numbers on a per capita basis or you will get a skewed view.
ANTIFA are rich white kids who want to fight NAZIs so they became the New SA and call everyone NAZIs to they can attack them.
Until a few years ago gay and lesbian peeps couldn't marry or that marriage wasn't recognised federally
Okay, so saying "it would be better if gay people weren't gay" isn't denying your right to exist, but "It would be better if gay people were dead" is. That makes more sense.
@DrYuriMom Interesting reading up on some of this, a lot of this happened while I was very young, and I don't think it quite fits in compared to modern politics.
I believe I'm going to still hold the stance that this group was in no way supported by the mainstream the way Antifa was though.
Would you oppose that statement?
I have no problem with people saying it would be better if gay people weren't gay
I won't disagree, although I still maintain violence has never had mainstream acceptance. We have some dimwit Dems intimating violence is okay, but then we have the President saying it to. It gets messy.
Cat it is easy for you to say "I have no problem with people saying it would be better if gay people weren't gay". The reality today is, that if you say this you stand a good chance to be fired.
Honestly, my life would have been much more convenient if I hadn't had my wires crossed
Where I separate from the left is that I am not homonormative
The problem now a days is people are calling everyone a NAZI so really a lot of people don't give a F anymore.
And there again is where I fault you at @DrYuriMom , if you look at all the news reports surrounding early antifa riots, the mainstream news was very clearly on their side, and acting as a rallying cry in favor of most of their actions, always faulting that it was some "Hate Speech Activist" that they were protesting.
I fully acknowledge that male on female attraction, and vice versa, is normal and best for the species
I honestly hate the "normal" debate most of all
I'll get back to you in a minute Tom