@JustTom , maybe we don;t see a riot the same way. Were marches and non-violent civil disobedience riots?

@DrYuriMom I have studied the rise of Facism, National Socialism and have done presentations on preventing it's return. Which is why I am frustrated by the fact that those that who claim to be "Anti-Facist" behave so close to the NSDAP- SA of the 1920-30s

Oh, Tom, tell me you're joking.

I'm not. The word Nazi is banned in BF5.

They seriously dodged using Nazi in a WW2 combat game?

There was a lot of that early on. That said, there were also cars burned in DC on inauguration day and I think everyone decried that.

Trump jokingly saying to body slam a reporter is bad and may radicalize someone. But does not calling 50% of the people Nazis, racists, deplorable do even more damage?

I never even heard of the inauguration day riots until Tim mentioned them.

It was glossed over by the news @Atkins

Yeah, Tim was on it, a few other people were. Not nearly as loud as it should have been though.

@TraderPropShop , yeah. Again, that's why I am here and not on the left with my "natural allies"

The Libertarians are your true allies.

If they didn't want the gold standard, I'd agree with you

@DrYuriMom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi_vX0tknJM
Antifa early riots against a Jewish Free Speech advocate.
Tell me where the line between riot and "non-violent civil disobedience" is please.

Libertarians are kooky in ways that make the Dems make sense

I'll level with you, the Republicans are too married to conservative Christian factions to give you everything you want, at least for the next generation or two.

I know that, @Bookworm . That's my problem.

Ohh Cat, you don't like fixed money, i.e. gold?

I don't want the left but the right doesn't want me.

I exist in political limbo.

It's not that the right doesn't want you.

They just won't give you your full platform.

Religious right is almost entirely dead of old age.

Okay, as long as you agree that the mainstream support of THIS, was the mainstream support of RIOTING AND VIOLENCE. @DrYuriMom

Remmember all of the cars that got burrned in DC when the Tea Party cranks protested Obama? Yeah, me neither.

I don;t want a platform. I just want to be left alone to live my life with my family fully recognized.

Tea Partiers were well known for picking up the litter after their rallies.

Tea Party tried to go mainstream and were quickly booed out.

That was before new media, and the now legacy media...didn't like them.

When you control the image, you control national opinion, and thus the Tea Party was neutralized.

The MSM tried to claim the Tea Party was "The New Face of the KKK!" Yeah, the Tea Party were just people who hate taxes and not entirely informed on what was happening

I gotta sit here and agree with @Khanclansith - Antifa are a perfect image of what it means to be a Fascist.

@JustTom , what is this? And yes, support of looting and violence is support of violence if it happened.

@JustTom now we need to get them to see they are the new SA

@DrYuriMom The vid I linked above that of the Antifa riots was "This" in that context.

Tea Party was for sound/fix money with fiscal responsibility. Central bankers and politicians hate this. Central bankers are the real source of power. Fractional reserve lending is the number one cause of wealth inequality - it is mathematical.

The people I talk to on the left are people who are just afraid. Afraid of being shot by police. Afraid of their marriage being annulled. Afraid of losing their health care and being bankrupted by preexisting conditions.

That was some of their standpoints, yes Trader, but they were also extremists on many other points, and that's why no one wanted to support them.

There is a lot of fear bordering on terror by minorities who fear they will be abused by a majority that doesn;t like them.

But people already are being hurt by Obama-care

They are? What part of it?