Eric holder said to kick'em when they are down, Trump said body slamming, I think any reasonable person understands that these both were metaphors and not an actual call to violence.

Eric Holder is an ass

@cat Don't have any time left to talk, RL calls. But I will just finish our little healthcare bit by saying I'm glad we agree on that level.

He was misquoting Michelle Obama. "When they hit low, go high"

Have fun, Tom

It wasn’t a mistake.

He meant it

I didn't say it was a mistake

I guess it was less a misquote then a twisting of

In any case, he took some really classy words and f**ed them up.

Like I said, Holder is an ass.

Also, ground up castor seeds are as much a poison as these bombs were bombs. Kinda, but not really.

Are they equivalent, absolutely. Is one worse than the other. Not really. They're both a symptom of us dehumanizing each other. Just as the Scalise shooter and the Giffords shooter are equivalent. The other side is evil and therefore anything is justified since it is good vs evil rather than ideological differences.

Desperate Trump supporter say the vans are switched ... looks photo shopped.

The Giffords shooter was balls to the wall crazy. The Scalise shooter wasn’t from anything I saw.

Did you see the Giffords shooters YouTube? He invented his own language and wore trash bags. One was completely insane, the other was motivated by politics. The G shooter was to crazy to even understand the current politics. Seriously look up his videos yourself

It's like the immigration debate. Build a wall. Secure the border. Make the border a no-mans land where anything bigger than a horny toad is disintegrated. But at the same time give those who have been here peacefully a path to citizenship that acknowledges their lives here and definitely welcome the dreamers who have made good. And design a rational immigration system with reasonable quotas.

Wall is only necessary because Dems. won't respect the law and deport. So the wall is stop them in the first place. Waste of money if the laws were correct and obeyed.

Blame employers, not Dems

I blame both.

If the laws were actually enforced there wouldn't be a financial incentive

No demand, no supply. I'm a demand-sider by the way.

E-verify and if you higher an illegal you pay big time, problem solved.

My (Republican) next door neighbor hires illegals to work his beautiful yard

He did the same for his lovely patio

Sure, fine him.

or her.

report them. no mercy.

I'm not the authorities but i thought it was ironic. Same with Trump wanting migrant help for his resorts while trying to dry up immigration

Have a self funding bounty system... the solution is simple if it was done.

Why a bounty system. Just don't hire them.

But business will never do it

Well maybe not necessary, but to ensure it is enforced ...

It's like guns. Enforce the laws we have before we make new ones.

True ... a good start.

The wall however is only because of lack of enforcement, waste of money.

lack of the will to enforce ... I should say.

The current atmosphere against immigrants is creating a poisonous atmosphere for brown people who belong here. It's why I don't like ideas like bounties and the like. Too easy to be abused.

Just require everyone to be checked on hire, whether white, red, yellow, brown or black.

Just always do it. No exceptions, and massive fines for businesses that don't.

You could make it reciprocal, if you make false claims you pay too.

Hmm,. interesting idea.