Message from @shinsoo

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2018-10-29 13:32:48 UTC  

every scientist acnowlendges those affects...🤦🏻

2018-10-29 13:33:24 UTC  

you're fine, i'm referring to Jasse

2018-10-29 13:35:22 UTC  

being uncertain about it because you're aware of not knowing enough, that's great
being skeptical of proposed solutions/responses, that's great
being skeptical of proven scientific consensus is suspicious af, and a likely sign of either conspiracy nonsense (Jasse) or paid propaganda (Prager)

2018-10-29 13:36:17 UTC  
2018-10-29 13:36:45 UTC  

what conspiracys i have said so far?
i just gave bunch of really basic data

2018-10-29 13:37:33 UTC  

My point is that things can only be taken out of scientific scepticism when they are literally scientific fact, and climate change is something that we simply dont have enough data on to understand what is going on and therefore as a science will always need to be under scientific scepticism

2018-10-29 13:38:32 UTC  

this video addresses what you said, i think, Brakey
how climate advocacy has been coopted by radicals on the left

2018-10-29 13:38:41 UTC  

and how climate denial has become a right-wing staple

2018-10-29 13:38:53 UTC  

sorry, bad connection

2018-10-29 13:38:55 UTC  

Treating these things as fact is unscientific, since we cannot run an experiment multiple times, pumping CO2 into the Earths atmosphere and observing what happens

2018-10-29 13:39:25 UTC  

climate is changing, and aways will. but debate is over how much of it man made.

2018-10-29 13:39:54 UTC  

we absolutely have enough data on climate change
geologists can gather data on climate throughout Earth's history

2018-10-29 13:40:45 UTC  

Until theres a method to know exactly how many ppm of CO2 was in the atmosphere at all points in Earths history we will never know, and that is impossible

2018-10-29 13:40:54 UTC  

and how accurate that data is?
and we are talking global temeratures not just one spot.

2018-10-29 13:42:04 UTC  

recent data has 0.5C error margin.
And we are speaking 1.5C change....

2018-10-29 13:43:01 UTC  

and old data is unrelaiable as hell.
we have only new satelite data that we can actually use

2018-10-29 13:43:32 UTC  

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2018-10-29 13:44:22 UTC  

explain why do you belive in man made climate change. when clearly you havent looked up even most basic data?

2018-10-29 13:45:38 UTC  

I'll just put it out there and say I refuse to 'believe' anything that cannot stand up to scientific scrutiny of experimentation and repetition under the specific parameters required. I'm a sceptic on evolutionary theory simply because it's impossible to repeat. Many scientific theories are based on assumptions and require belief, simply because due to the nature of their scale they cannot be tested repeatably.

2018-10-29 13:46:30 UTC  

fair enough, Brakey
that kind of hardcore skepticism is impractical, but at least consistent

2018-10-29 13:47:04 UTC  

it's true that most scientific Theories which are consensus nowadays are based on belief to some degree

2018-10-29 13:47:04 UTC  

Men thought the world was flat until the technology appeared to circumnavigate the globe

2018-10-29 13:47:24 UTC  

nah, ppl already calculated its radius way before that

2018-10-29 13:47:33 UTC  

greek philosophers knew it was round

2018-10-29 13:47:38 UTC  

It was a figure of speech

2018-10-29 13:47:50 UTC  

😃

2018-10-29 13:47:57 UTC  

:P

2018-10-29 13:49:40 UTC  

There are few things that should be considered as fact, very few, and one of them is the ability for water to boil at 100degrees c under standard atmospheric temperatures and pressures

2018-10-29 13:53:06 UTC  

that's by definition though, not very amazing

2018-10-29 13:55:14 UTC  

Well, yes. Theory always has its purpose, but I have a great deal of problem when scientific theory is stated as undeniable fact. It stifles scientific understanding. Since the theory of evolution has become so widely taught as fact, there has been no advancement in that line of theoretical thinking that doesn't use Darwin as a jumping point

2018-10-29 13:57:31 UTC  

And the involvement of scientific theory in policy and politics is something that should always be under the highest scrutiny, because if the science should be held under scrutiny and scepticism, all the more that a politician should be since a politician is not held strictly by the scientific agenda

2018-10-29 13:59:41 UTC  

You see that happening to gender. How would you like it if it is impossible to argue it since it is "undeniable".

2018-10-29 14:14:48 UTC  

does the left even try to make themselves look good anymore

2018-10-29 14:46:42 UTC  

finally

2018-10-29 14:51:23 UTC  

Gab has added to their original statement. The one you get when you go to the website. Read it here https://gab.ai/Sunless_Sentinel