Message from @methdragon

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2018-10-29 17:26:12 UTC  

I don't mind thinking it to yourself or keepkng to yourself

2018-10-29 17:26:15 UTC  

"How do you know he is a nazi?"
"He looks like one!"

2018-10-29 17:26:26 UTC  

The problem methdragon is that when you ostracise and shame someone, you remove any chance of talking sense into them, because you lose access to them

2018-10-29 17:26:38 UTC  

You can do that in jail too

2018-10-29 17:26:46 UTC  

I am not for death penalty

2018-10-29 17:26:53 UTC  

the justice system should be rehabilitative

2018-10-29 17:27:03 UTC  

I am for jail as a rehabilitativr institution

2018-10-29 17:27:10 UTC  

Changing minds is a critical component of democracy. Which means the Nazis get to participate.

2018-10-29 17:27:13 UTC  

How do you propose we arrest someone in a way where we don't make them feel like they're being targeted for their beliefs?

2018-10-29 17:27:37 UTC  

you can't arrest people for beliefs

2018-10-29 17:27:39 UTC  

@Atkins if he wears a hakenkruz yeah he is a nazi(context matters obviously)

2018-10-29 17:27:44 UTC  

@Vigil who cares how they feel lol

2018-10-29 17:27:44 UTC  

but you can arrest them for actions

2018-10-29 17:27:54 UTC  

like trying to get millions of people killed

2018-10-29 17:27:56 UTC  

Because then they get mad and shoot up a synagogue

2018-10-29 17:28:11 UTC  

You can keep your beliefs to yourself

2018-10-29 17:28:15 UTC  

You can't even arrest them for speech, because it's an essential part of how we function as a nation.

2018-10-29 17:28:16 UTC  

@Vigil that's called violence, which is properly responded to with more force

2018-10-29 17:28:25 UTC  

the allies didn't rationally talk with the nazis

2018-10-29 17:28:28 UTC  

Saying is also an action shinso

2018-10-29 17:28:34 UTC  

That's why there are consequences

2018-10-29 17:28:35 UTC  

You can literally form a political party with the stated goal of creating laws and amending the Constitution to kill *everyone*.

2018-10-29 17:28:36 UTC  

exactly

2018-10-29 17:28:44 UTC  

So what?

2018-10-29 17:28:45 UTC  

Smooth, what I'm saying is I'm more for talking things out and dealing with a problem before it becomes a problem

2018-10-29 17:28:57 UTC  

public speech is an action and should be punishable

2018-10-29 17:29:02 UTC  

I think GAB should have banned him

2018-10-29 17:29:03 UTC  

@Vigil fascism, by and large, cannot be talked down

2018-10-29 17:29:16 UTC  

Neither can communism.

2018-10-29 17:29:17 UTC  

it is a natural evolution of a degenerated reactionary society

2018-10-29 17:29:19 UTC  

Better Dead than Red.

2018-10-29 17:29:22 UTC  

Right?

2018-10-29 17:29:25 UTC  

And I understand why there is backlash against them

2018-10-29 17:29:30 UTC  

Besides, if we allow people to be arrested for beliefs, you could say anyone is a nazi and if enough people back you up, the government could arrest you when you haven't even done anything. *That's* fascism

2018-10-29 17:29:40 UTC  

lmao

2018-10-29 17:29:47 UTC  

You are taking to the extreme cipher

2018-10-29 17:29:47 UTC  

We're seeing authoritarianism on the far left *and* far right, it's too much of a risk

2018-10-29 17:29:49 UTC  

nobody wants people arrested for beliefs

2018-10-29 17:29:52 UTC  

@Vigil the government imprisoning people arbitrarily is not fascism

2018-10-29 17:30:03 UTC  

It literally is

2018-10-29 17:30:03 UTC  

don't change what words mean