Message from @shinsoo
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All Nazis hate Jews
Not all Nazis hate Jews.
Yeah the Holocaust didn't happen/s
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Wow, a Holocaust denier.
Classy.
It's sarcasm
hard to tell around these parts
I should've added it in the end sorry
I mean, you are talking about punishing people for thoughts and beliefs.
So, I did picture you with a red armband.
Yeah you are thoughts about killing people is not fit in society
if somebody just holds nazi beliefs, it's impossible and undesirable to punish them
if they actively try to bring about a nazi regime, for example by spreading their hatred online or by marching in the streets, then they are intentionally putting lives at risk and making clear that they want millions of people to die. **that** should be punishable
I don't mind thinking it to yourself or keepkng to yourself
"How do you know he is a nazi?"
"He looks like one!"
The problem methdragon is that when you ostracise and shame someone, you remove any chance of talking sense into them, because you lose access to them
You can do that in jail too
I am not for death penalty
I am for jail as a rehabilitativr institution
Changing minds is a critical component of democracy. Which means the Nazis get to participate.
How do you propose we arrest someone in a way where we don't make them feel like they're being targeted for their beliefs?
you can't arrest people for beliefs
@Atkins if he wears a hakenkruz yeah he is a nazi(context matters obviously)
@Vigil who cares how they feel lol
but you can arrest them for actions
like trying to get millions of people killed
Because then they get mad and shoot up a synagogue
You can keep your beliefs to yourself
You can't even arrest them for speech, because it's an essential part of how we function as a nation.
@Vigil that's called violence, which is properly responded to with more force
the allies didn't rationally talk with the nazis
Saying is also an action shinso
That's why there are consequences
You can literally form a political party with the stated goal of creating laws and amending the Constitution to kill *everyone*.
exactly
So what?
Smooth, what I'm saying is I'm more for talking things out and dealing with a problem before it becomes a problem
public speech is an action and should be punishable