Message from @methdragon

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2018-10-29 17:24:40 UTC  

Not all Nazis hate Jews.

2018-10-29 17:24:40 UTC  

@shinsoo throw them in a lake and see if they float

2018-10-29 17:24:49 UTC  

Yeah the Holocaust didn't happen/s

2018-10-29 17:24:56 UTC  

🤔

2018-10-29 17:24:59 UTC  

Wow, a Holocaust denier.

2018-10-29 17:25:00 UTC  

Classy.

2018-10-29 17:25:12 UTC  

It's sarcasm

2018-10-29 17:25:19 UTC  

hard to tell around these parts

2018-10-29 17:25:25 UTC  

I should've added it in the end sorry

2018-10-29 17:25:28 UTC  

I mean, you are talking about punishing people for thoughts and beliefs.

2018-10-29 17:25:35 UTC  

So, I did picture you with a red armband.

2018-10-29 17:25:56 UTC  

Yeah you are thoughts about killing people is not fit in society

2018-10-29 17:26:05 UTC  

if somebody just holds nazi beliefs, it's impossible and undesirable to punish them
if they actively try to bring about a nazi regime, for example by spreading their hatred online or by marching in the streets, then they are intentionally putting lives at risk and making clear that they want millions of people to die. **that** should be punishable

2018-10-29 17:26:12 UTC  

I don't mind thinking it to yourself or keepkng to yourself

2018-10-29 17:26:15 UTC  

"How do you know he is a nazi?"
"He looks like one!"

2018-10-29 17:26:26 UTC  

The problem methdragon is that when you ostracise and shame someone, you remove any chance of talking sense into them, because you lose access to them

2018-10-29 17:26:38 UTC  

You can do that in jail too

2018-10-29 17:26:46 UTC  

I am not for death penalty

2018-10-29 17:26:53 UTC  

the justice system should be rehabilitative

2018-10-29 17:27:03 UTC  

I am for jail as a rehabilitativr institution

2018-10-29 17:27:10 UTC  

Changing minds is a critical component of democracy. Which means the Nazis get to participate.

2018-10-29 17:27:13 UTC  

How do you propose we arrest someone in a way where we don't make them feel like they're being targeted for their beliefs?

2018-10-29 17:27:37 UTC  

you can't arrest people for beliefs

2018-10-29 17:27:39 UTC  

@Atkins if he wears a hakenkruz yeah he is a nazi(context matters obviously)

2018-10-29 17:27:44 UTC  

@Vigil who cares how they feel lol

2018-10-29 17:27:44 UTC  

but you can arrest them for actions

2018-10-29 17:27:54 UTC  

like trying to get millions of people killed

2018-10-29 17:27:56 UTC  

Because then they get mad and shoot up a synagogue

2018-10-29 17:28:11 UTC  

You can keep your beliefs to yourself

2018-10-29 17:28:15 UTC  

You can't even arrest them for speech, because it's an essential part of how we function as a nation.

2018-10-29 17:28:16 UTC  

@Vigil that's called violence, which is properly responded to with more force

2018-10-29 17:28:25 UTC  

the allies didn't rationally talk with the nazis

2018-10-29 17:28:28 UTC  

Saying is also an action shinso

2018-10-29 17:28:34 UTC  

That's why there are consequences

2018-10-29 17:28:35 UTC  

You can literally form a political party with the stated goal of creating laws and amending the Constitution to kill *everyone*.

2018-10-29 17:28:36 UTC  

exactly

2018-10-29 17:28:44 UTC  

So what?

2018-10-29 17:28:45 UTC  

Smooth, what I'm saying is I'm more for talking things out and dealing with a problem before it becomes a problem

2018-10-29 17:28:57 UTC  

public speech is an action and should be punishable

2018-10-29 17:29:02 UTC  

I think GAB should have banned him