Message from @Ƶero

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2018-06-25 05:14:42 UTC  

cant wait for Evangelions

2018-06-25 05:31:58 UTC  

Abe is a good PM domestically, bad in foreign policy. He needs to give up on the Diaoyu Islands

2018-06-25 05:43:57 UTC  

Idk it sounded to me like china needs to give up on it

2018-06-25 06:26:52 UTC  

It's Chinese territory

2018-06-25 06:27:43 UTC  

The media only shows the Japan-PRC friction...but it neglects to mention that they also offend Korea and ROC(Taiwan) on a regular basis

2018-06-25 06:27:59 UTC  

Taiwan also claims Diaoyu

2018-06-25 06:43:54 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/446121320732950531/460696624885399552/Senkaku_Diaoyu_Tiaoyu_Islands.png

2018-06-25 06:44:26 UTC  

Taiwan maybe, China no not really

2018-06-25 06:46:01 UTC  

@Deleted User bullshit. The Chinese only claimed it after Japan found evidence of oil fields there in the 1970's. There's international records of this including old Chinese maps marking it as part of Japan.

2018-06-25 06:46:05 UTC  

Besides by that reasoning we should give California Arizona and Texas back to Mexico

2018-06-25 06:46:35 UTC  

Japan signed a treaty ceding all territory conquered

2018-06-25 06:46:47 UTC  

By your logic, Japan would still have jurisdiction over Taiwan

2018-06-25 06:47:14 UTC  

the fuck are you talking about

2018-06-25 06:47:16 UTC  

No

2018-06-25 06:47:22 UTC  

that's completely wrong

2018-06-25 06:47:23 UTC  

Japan had it before the war

2018-06-25 06:47:33 UTC  

Which China is the "real China" is a different issue. But whichever it is, it belongs to China

2018-06-25 06:47:40 UTC  

shit Japan had manchuria for a long while

2018-06-25 06:48:00 UTC  

china, you mean 支那, literally occupied [by Japan] China?

2018-06-25 06:48:50 UTC  

Japan occupied Taiwan at the same time that the islands were ceded. In the same treaty

2018-06-25 06:49:01 UTC  

that is absolutely incorrect

2018-06-25 06:49:41 UTC  

Japan never ceded Senkaku, I dare you to try and find that record

2018-06-25 06:49:42 UTC  

It's absolutely correct. 1895 Treaty of Shimonoseki at the end of the Sino Japanese War

2018-06-25 06:50:48 UTC  

Idk

2018-06-25 06:50:49 UTC  

find for me where it mentions 尖閣諸島

2018-06-25 06:51:03 UTC  

That treaty gave Taiwan and Diaoyu to Japan. All territory except the four main islands and associated minor islands were given back at the 1945 Treaty of SF

2018-06-25 06:51:17 UTC  

If it was chinas pretty sure they would have been in control of it and not the US

2018-06-25 06:51:27 UTC  

dude there were litearlly 3 marjor wars over that shit after that

2018-06-25 06:51:36 UTC  

So if the Diaoyu Islands are not covered by San Francisco then neither is Taiwan

2018-06-25 06:52:29 UTC  

You're talking out your ass. The only "justification" China has over Senkaku is that they all the sudden wanted it after oil was found there in the 1970's.

2018-06-25 06:52:39 UTC  

It's Japanese territory, end of story.

2018-06-25 06:52:48 UTC  

US administered a lot of Asian territory after the war for many years

2018-06-25 06:53:18 UTC  

Islands given to Japan in 1895. All islands except those specified in the treaty given back in 1945. End of story.

2018-06-25 06:53:36 UTC  

ok smartass then who owns 竹島?

2018-06-25 06:53:51 UTC  

if you're going to give one you have to give up both

2018-06-25 06:54:28 UTC  

how about 北方領土?

2018-06-25 06:55:01 UTC  

Korea owns Liancourt

2018-06-25 06:55:12 UTC  

Pick a language to argue in. I can use Mandarin if you'd like

2018-06-25 06:55:18 UTC  

But pick one or the other

2018-06-25 06:55:58 UTC  

no, I'm done arguing, you just hate Japan and are willing to completely ignore historical record and the current international recognition of soverignty because you hate Japan.

2018-06-25 06:56:32 UTC  

The Kuril Islands are not Japanese. Just who they belong to, I don't know, it depends on if you're going to recognize the Soviet and succeeding Russian claim or not