Message from @The Eternal Leaf

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2018-06-08 13:13:57 UTC  
2018-06-08 23:22:05 UTC  

@ZoSo159 Because being told to go to discussion with this topic, I'll answer your question here. Goyim is a term that refers to non-Jews, though usually applied with a negative connotation. And the brackets are a sly way of referring to Jews, but it's usually with () instead.

2018-06-08 23:23:23 UTC  

Ah! Only recently been seeing the terms so still learning the memescape

2018-06-08 23:23:41 UTC  

@Deleted User Regarding the Han comment, I am only stating that the Han dynasty existed from the 3rd Century BC to the 3rd Century AD. Unless you are saying that the Han have demographically replaced the entirety of the Orient, saying that all Asians are Han is factually untrue, particularly as Indochina and a good chunk of Siberia are distinctly different from China.

2018-06-08 23:24:13 UTC  

Was going to make a joke about the whole ethnic and religious Jews thing but wouldn't work since goym are not Jewish

2018-06-08 23:25:00 UTC  

You'll catch up sooner or later.

2018-06-08 23:28:46 UTC  

They are descendants of Chinese people. What we call Chinese people in English means Han people.

2018-06-08 23:29:16 UTC  

As an aside, like a third of American Jews are actually Buddhist

2018-06-08 23:29:29 UTC  

Which is a whole nother topic but it's silly and ridiculous

2018-06-08 23:29:46 UTC  

I respects Buddhists. I don't respect white people who call themselves Buddhists.

2018-06-08 23:30:49 UTC  

Except that the problem is that the most commonly accepted idea for where we got the name _China_ from, in any European language, is from the Qing Dynasty, which were actually Manchu, not Chinese.

2018-06-08 23:32:24 UTC  

The rulers were

2018-06-08 23:32:34 UTC  

But the majority has always been Han

2018-06-08 23:33:06 UTC  

Well, obviously, if a Manchurian comes in and conquers China, the people that the Manchurian rules over would be Chinese.

2018-06-08 23:33:20 UTC  

Yeah

2018-06-08 23:33:24 UTC  

But then you just conceded that there are in fact differences between the Han and the Manchu.

2018-06-08 23:33:33 UTC  

But in China there's more than one ethnic group

2018-06-08 23:34:02 UTC  

Visibly I can't tell the difference. My wife says she can't either. She's Han. But they did have their own separate culture

2018-06-08 23:34:21 UTC  

And on your ID it says what ethnicity you are

2018-06-08 23:34:56 UTC  

Many places in the US will label Mexicans as white, but white Mexican doesn't mean the same thing as white Finn.

2018-06-08 23:35:34 UTC  

If you are referring to the people that primarily occupy the region of modern China, and you want to call them Han, then that would be fine.

2018-06-08 23:35:52 UTC  

But the historical Han do not make up all ethnicities within China, and especially not in greater Asia.

2018-06-08 23:36:05 UTC  

I think you're getting my words mixed up

2018-06-08 23:36:21 UTC  

Then, please, do correct me. No sarcasm, I might be confusing myself.

2018-06-08 23:36:31 UTC  

What is it that you meant?

2018-06-08 23:38:07 UTC  

Han people are the original Orientals. All other Orientals came from them. Jin/Manchu, Hui, Miao, Zhuang, etc.

2018-06-08 23:38:17 UTC  

Not Russians

2018-06-08 23:38:19 UTC  

I am white and Puerto Rican. Not allowed to say I am Puerto Rican though because something something white privalge

2018-06-08 23:38:31 UTC  

Even though they are a minority group in China, just wanted to clarify

2018-06-08 23:38:38 UTC  

That's weird

2018-06-08 23:38:44 UTC  

But the Han are not, because the Han only come up as a term after the _Han Dynasty_.

2018-06-08 23:38:49 UTC  

How come half white and half black people get to say they're black

2018-06-08 23:38:53 UTC  

If you mean **Mongoloid**, that's something else.

2018-06-08 23:39:29 UTC  

I dunno what they called themselves before

2018-06-08 23:39:40 UTC  

It's not what China calls herself now.

2018-06-08 23:40:20 UTC  

China in the commonly accepted Chinese is _Zhongguo_.

2018-06-08 23:40:28 UTC  

I know. Middle country

2018-06-08 23:40:51 UTC  

中国人民

2018-06-08 23:40:56 UTC  

PRC

2018-06-08 23:41:09 UTC  

Okay, but then my point remains that the Han didn't exist far back enough to say that all Asians are descendant from them.

2018-06-08 23:41:54 UTC  

The word didn't. The DNA did