But the majority has always been Han

Well, obviously, if a Manchurian comes in and conquers China, the people that the Manchurian rules over would be Chinese.

Yeah

But then you just conceded that there are in fact differences between the Han and the Manchu.

But in China there's more than one ethnic group

Visibly I can't tell the difference. My wife says she can't either. She's Han. But they did have their own separate culture

And on your ID it says what ethnicity you are

Many places in the US will label Mexicans as white, but white Mexican doesn't mean the same thing as white Finn.

If you are referring to the people that primarily occupy the region of modern China, and you want to call them Han, then that would be fine.

But the historical Han do not make up all ethnicities within China, and especially not in greater Asia.

I think you're getting my words mixed up

Then, please, do correct me. No sarcasm, I might be confusing myself.

What is it that you meant?

Han people are the original Orientals. All other Orientals came from them. Jin/Manchu, Hui, Miao, Zhuang, etc.

Not Russians

I am white and Puerto Rican. Not allowed to say I am Puerto Rican though because something something white privalge

Even though they are a minority group in China, just wanted to clarify

That's weird

But the Han are not, because the Han only come up as a term after the _Han Dynasty_.

How come half white and half black people get to say they're black

If you mean **Mongoloid**, that's something else.

I dunno what they called themselves before

It's not what China calls herself now.

China in the commonly accepted Chinese is _Zhongguo_.

I know. Middle country

中国人民

PRC

Okay, but then my point remains that the Han didn't exist far back enough to say that all Asians are descendant from them.

The word didn't. The DNA did

And it's generally believed, so far as I remember from school, perhaps new discoveries have been made into racial history, but the Asian "race", as loosely as you can define it, the Mongoloids, came form the Steppes, not where China is now.

Some of the minorities aren't even different in genetics, just in culture

Yeah you're right

But that was probably before they even looked like Asians

Perhaps, but I had to be autistically specific about this.

In any case, apologies for derailing you for so long.

Nah man you're good

I'm glad that we could be civil, in that case.

It's such a relief to find someone intelligent

Well no reason not to be civil. We didn't really disagree, just used different terminolo

Terminology

Now here's an interesting question for you