Message from @The Eternal Leaf

Discord ID: 454792936161411093


2018-06-08 23:38:17 UTC  

Not Russians

2018-06-08 23:38:19 UTC  

I am white and Puerto Rican. Not allowed to say I am Puerto Rican though because something something white privalge

2018-06-08 23:38:31 UTC  

Even though they are a minority group in China, just wanted to clarify

2018-06-08 23:38:38 UTC  

That's weird

2018-06-08 23:38:44 UTC  

But the Han are not, because the Han only come up as a term after the _Han Dynasty_.

2018-06-08 23:38:49 UTC  

How come half white and half black people get to say they're black

2018-06-08 23:38:53 UTC  

If you mean **Mongoloid**, that's something else.

2018-06-08 23:39:29 UTC  

I dunno what they called themselves before

2018-06-08 23:39:40 UTC  

It's not what China calls herself now.

2018-06-08 23:40:20 UTC  

China in the commonly accepted Chinese is _Zhongguo_.

2018-06-08 23:40:28 UTC  

I know. Middle country

2018-06-08 23:40:51 UTC  

中国人民

2018-06-08 23:40:56 UTC  

PRC

2018-06-08 23:41:09 UTC  

Okay, but then my point remains that the Han didn't exist far back enough to say that all Asians are descendant from them.

2018-06-08 23:41:54 UTC  

The word didn't. The DNA did

2018-06-08 23:42:01 UTC  

And it's generally believed, so far as I remember from school, perhaps new discoveries have been made into racial history, but the Asian "race", as loosely as you can define it, the Mongoloids, came form the Steppes, not where China is now.

2018-06-08 23:42:47 UTC  

Some of the minorities aren't even different in genetics, just in culture

2018-06-08 23:43:00 UTC  

Yeah you're right

2018-06-08 23:43:19 UTC  

But that was probably before they even looked like Asians

2018-06-08 23:44:33 UTC  

Perhaps, but I had to be autistically specific about this.

2018-06-08 23:44:45 UTC  

In any case, apologies for derailing you for so long.

2018-06-08 23:44:58 UTC  

Nah man you're good

2018-06-08 23:45:21 UTC  

I'm glad that we could be civil, in that case.

2018-06-08 23:45:28 UTC  

It's such a relief to find someone intelligent

2018-06-08 23:45:50 UTC  

Well no reason not to be civil. We didn't really disagree, just used different terminolo

2018-06-08 23:45:54 UTC  

Terminology

2018-06-08 23:46:13 UTC  

Now here's an interesting question for you

2018-06-08 23:46:22 UTC  

I'll try to answer it as best I can.

2018-06-08 23:47:02 UTC  

We Christians have always heard of races being divided into Semitic, Hamitic, and Japhetic

2018-06-08 23:47:18 UTC  

I've always heard of Hamitic being black people

2018-06-08 23:47:42 UTC  

And Japhetic being Asians

2018-06-08 23:48:45 UTC  

But I've also read an idea that Hamitic people were white people in North Africa

2018-06-08 23:49:25 UTC  

Which one do you think is right?

2018-06-08 23:50:57 UTC  

From what I understand as of right now, the Hamitics - going back into history as the term has fallen out of use - referred to Africans but not necessarily _blacks_.

2018-06-08 23:51:52 UTC  

The Kushites and Abyssinians were considered Hamitics for quite a while, but now they'd be Sudanese and Ethiopian.

2018-06-08 23:51:56 UTC  

Respectively.

2018-06-08 23:52:27 UTC  

On a technicality, they would be part of the Caucasoid group, which makes them cousins to whites more than whites themselves.

2018-06-08 23:52:52 UTC  

However, there's also significant admixture of Congoloids, now these would be the West African and down kinds of blacks that most are familiar with when thinking of Africa.

2018-06-08 23:53:34 UTC  

(Admixture of Congoloids has increased over the centuries, so DNA tests on preserved rulers and slaves tell us in these regions in East Africa, meaning they could've been paler back then.)

2018-06-08 23:53:50 UTC  

Hmm

2018-06-08 23:54:18 UTC  

In this respect I'd say that the Hamitic people would be considered the "cousins", if that makes sense, of Europeans. Distantly related, further than Semitic people would be, but somewhat closer to Europe than contemporary Africa.