Message from @Salacious Swanky Cat

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2018-11-20 17:30:11 UTC  

And lots of sci-fi takes on this general theme

2018-11-20 17:30:21 UTC  

For good reason

2018-11-20 17:30:48 UTC  

the problem is mars doesn't really have much of an atmosphere in comparision to earth.

2018-11-20 17:31:28 UTC  

it's about a hundred times thinner, meaning that the sun's rays beat on it much harder. Think of the ultra violet rays that strike our planet, and then consider them being a hundred times more powerful.

2018-11-20 17:31:40 UTC  

True, but if we are patient it looks like there are the necessarily resources to terraform it. It'll just take a thousand year.

2018-11-20 17:31:46 UTC  

not much at all could survive that.

2018-11-20 17:31:56 UTC  

Genetic modification, baby!

2018-11-20 17:32:01 UTC  

meaning there's not really any life to be found on mars.

2018-11-20 17:32:05 UTC  

only remnants of it

2018-11-20 17:32:18 UTC  

Then we put life there, starting with microbes and plants.

2018-11-20 17:32:22 UTC  

so no, we shouldn't look for life on mars, because we won't find any.

2018-11-20 17:32:27 UTC  

We'll make our own life there.

2018-11-20 17:33:08 UTC  

We may actually find life. Microbes in some places, But i'm kinda betting it'll look like primitive Earth microbiota.

2018-11-20 17:33:43 UTC  

it's not feasibly possible for something like that to exist on a planet without atmospheric protection against the violent rays of the sun

2018-11-20 17:35:46 UTC  

It is if it's underground or in shaded places. Or the poles where the suns rays are oblique.

2018-11-20 17:36:04 UTC  

That's also where the water likely exists

2018-11-20 17:38:04 UTC  

it would have to be miles under the surface.

2018-11-20 17:38:29 UTC  

radiation would leak pretty far in, as well as heat.

2018-11-20 17:39:07 UTC  

Meters would likely suffice, or less in shaded places or the poles. I think it's worth exploring with robots before we send people. It'll be about 15 years before we send people so make use of the time.

2018-11-20 17:40:20 UTC  

I like the robot probes, anyway. My biggest philanthropic beneficiary is the Planetary Society. They actually fund things like solar sails and instruments on NASA, ESA, and JSA probes.

2018-11-20 17:43:40 UTC  

@Grenade123 just read it. Full of npc garbage.

2018-11-20 17:47:09 UTC  

As far as we know, there's no life to displace on mars in the first place (Besides very small lifeforms perhaps). As for its environment, it's currently inhospitable and couldn't get much worse for supporting life, let alone intelligent life.

2018-11-20 17:47:18 UTC  

That article reads like absolute trash

2018-11-20 17:49:29 UTC  

We need to decolonize the sciences, says the Afro woman, quick call the witch doctors. We need lightning.

2018-11-20 17:49:40 UTC  

Lol

2018-11-20 17:53:44 UTC  

From the article: "But I’m disturbed by the way people talk about going to Mars as if the planet is ours..."

Who's is it exactly then? It sounds like this person has conceptualized an idea of intelligent life on mars without any evidence for such an idea. I don't think microbes are very concerned with much, let alone what we do on mars

2018-11-20 17:55:24 UTC  

Until some other civilization claims the planet as their own, there isn't much stopping anyone from claiming mars as their own. These people sound worried about a microbe genocide. I don't think we can make smallpox blankets that small though

2018-11-20 17:56:29 UTC  

Mars is mine

2018-11-20 17:56:39 UTC  

I just claimed it

2018-11-20 17:56:56 UTC  

Lol

2018-11-20 17:58:20 UTC  

I think we should send them all up there to consult with the apparent microbes. Let them breathe the atmosphere so they can understand the microbes ‘lived’ experiences.

2018-11-20 17:59:20 UTC  

@taekahn too bad you don't have the means to defend your claim (here come the ancaps)

2018-11-20 18:00:31 UTC  

Oh, don't I? Don't I?

2018-11-20 18:00:40 UTC  

Recreational nukes are the answer. Duh.

2018-11-20 18:01:12 UTC  

Reminder not to click on Gizmodo links.

2018-11-20 18:01:19 UTC  

Let them starve.

2018-11-20 18:04:21 UTC  

Use archivers to access all Gawker properties, and use your hosts file to block all Gawker domains.
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2018-11-20 18:04:51 UTC  

@Salacious Swanky Cat I believe they are called McNukes™

2018-11-20 18:06:56 UTC  

Lol.

2018-11-20 18:10:34 UTC  

Oh my god I missed the best part of the article "It’s been troubling to me to hear people erasing what’s going on here on our own planet both from an environmental standpoint and an indigenous rights standpoint when they talk about going to other planets."