Message from @Deleted User

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2019-03-22 17:07:29 UTC  

Logos

2019-03-22 17:07:39 UTC  

There is historical evidence that Christ existed. They have even found his tomb, and it was empty.

2019-03-22 17:08:15 UTC  

Jesus was a righteous jew though

2019-03-22 17:08:21 UTC  

Another piece of evidence is that the gospel teaches that Abraham, and his descendants rose from their graves and many people saw them.

2019-03-22 17:08:38 UTC  

They then transcended to Heaven.

2019-03-22 17:08:48 UTC  

The cave of patriarchs is also empty.

2019-03-22 17:08:56 UTC  

And the talmudic Jews lost 75% of their people to conversion after Christ

2019-03-22 17:14:22 UTC  

Until the day of Christ, the Jews were God's chosen people. Chosen to make a covenant with God, to obey the 617 Mosaic laws in exchange for Israel and special protections. A covenant they broke a million times.

2019-03-22 17:14:48 UTC  

And with the fulfillment of the law in Christ, all Christians became God's chosen people. Not the Jews.

2019-03-22 17:15:17 UTC  

And their book, the Torah, even tells all the times they screwed up.

2019-03-22 17:15:22 UTC  

The Jews lost their special status

2019-03-22 17:15:39 UTC  

What happens to all the non jews?

2019-03-22 17:15:43 UTC  

Israel? Palestine? Or how about the Kingdom of Jerusalem?<:smugpepe:445634631950139403>

2019-03-22 17:15:43 UTC  

Will they go to hell?

2019-03-22 17:15:50 UTC  

In the OT? No

2019-03-22 17:16:02 UTC  

They were only obligated to the seven laws of Noah

2019-03-22 17:16:12 UTC  

As long as they follow those they are righteous gentiles

2019-03-22 17:16:16 UTC  

Say I was in 2000BC China

2019-03-22 17:16:18 UTC  

But they don't get special stuff

2019-03-22 17:16:21 UTC  

What were rhe 7 laws?

2019-03-22 17:17:50 UTC  

Do not worship idols. Do not curse God. Establish courts for justice. Do not murder. Do not commit sexual immorality. Do not steal. Do not eat animals that are still alive.

2019-03-22 17:18:27 UTC  

They could eat the unclean animals, yeah?

2019-03-22 17:18:41 UTC  

That was forbidden I believe.

2019-03-22 17:18:44 UTC  

Say I kill a pig, and I cook some bacon.

2019-03-22 17:19:07 UTC  

That's okay

2019-03-22 17:19:15 UTC  

But don't cut off a live pig's leg and eat it

2019-03-22 17:19:22 UTC  

What was their sacrifice for sins?

2019-03-22 17:19:29 UTC  

Lambs and stuff

2019-03-22 17:19:35 UTC  

Doves maybe...

2019-03-22 17:19:48 UTC  

The ancient Chinese for example, they basically had the same religion as Abraham

2019-03-22 17:19:55 UTC  

Judaism before Judaism

2019-03-22 17:19:57 UTC  

Or are they covered by Christ?

2019-03-22 17:20:17 UTC  

Would they be set free in Hades/Bossom of Abraham?

2019-03-22 17:20:50 UTC  

Because as long as they were righteous they should be allowed in.

2019-03-22 17:27:59 UTC  

If they followed those laws, then yeah they're good

2019-03-22 17:30:21 UTC  

Following God was pretty easy back then. And we still couldn’t do it 🤷🏼‍♂️🤣

2019-03-22 17:31:14 UTC  

We, as in all humans.

2019-03-22 17:32:34 UTC  

Don't murder. Don't steal. Don't commit adultery. If only we followed just those three.

2019-03-22 17:54:15 UTC  

and what happens if you stole but wanted forgiveness?

2019-03-22 17:57:14 UTC  

Better hope you make that burnt offering in time.

2019-03-22 17:58:20 UTC  

Well... you were probably fine if you were making the attempt, but died on the way.