Message from @Poppy Rider

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2018-11-22 16:42:38 UTC  

Best word choice error ever

2018-11-22 16:42:46 UTC  

Electoral college works as an equalizer for the states.
In your proposed system, CA & NY following your reasoning, would get affirmative action as in they will vote for their interests and by sheer fact of population concentration end up dictating politics to the entire country.
In effect, their voting power will nullify whatever the rest of the country votes for.

Also poppy, almost every western country works with a representative democracy.
Switzerland being one of the very few outliers.

2018-11-22 16:43:58 UTC  

``` CA & NY following your reasoning, would get affirmative action```
Nope. I'm not talking about staes. I'm talking about ppl being worth the same. This is where you lot are getting confused.

2018-11-22 16:44:22 UTC  

You are all one country.

2018-11-22 16:44:25 UTC  

^that is where you are not understanding the topic at hand

2018-11-22 16:44:30 UTC  

no its a federal state poppy

2018-11-22 16:44:31 UTC  

Why is one persons vote worth more?

2018-11-22 16:44:35 UTC  

goddamnit

2018-11-22 16:44:57 UTC  

a federal state =/= as a monarchy country for example

2018-11-22 16:44:59 UTC  

The only relevance I see with the consistency of democrat wins in the overall popular vote is that it serves as a reminder that the legitimacy of our government derives from the people

2018-11-22 16:45:59 UTC  

If those voters' will is confounded consistently we risk entering a crisis of confidence in the system

2018-11-22 16:46:29 UTC  

Try and imagin your country was a school and who gets in is not based on their score but their score plus bonus points for being from a perticula place.

2018-11-22 16:46:47 UTC  

>try to imagine your federal union of states wasn't a federal union of states

2018-11-22 16:46:58 UTC  

This is genuinely dumb

2018-11-22 16:46:59 UTC  

AA does not just have to be applied to race.

2018-11-22 16:47:44 UTC  

No, but it has to be applied to an arbitrary characteristic to serve a quota, separate from the purpose of the system. That's not what the electoral college is

2018-11-22 16:48:01 UTC  

And asserting that you know how the system works while proving you dont doesn't help

2018-11-22 16:49:15 UTC  

```separate from the purpose of the system.```
So do you agree that some ppl should be given more of a chace?

2018-11-22 16:49:37 UTC  

I have no issue with the way the Senate and Electoral College is designed. I'm more concerned about gerrymandering. The House is the arm of government the founders specifically made to represent the will of the people. To ensure government didn't lose legitimacy in the eye of the majority. We risk losing that legitimacy when the House strays too far from that.

2018-11-22 16:50:06 UTC  

I'm not agueing that.

2018-11-22 16:51:18 UTC  

You have 100 pll here and 100 ppl there but they are counted as 150. How is thta not AA?

2018-11-22 16:51:47 UTC  

Anyway, thank you Poppy for giving me a good morning laugh. I'll be smiling about the tranny of the majority all day. :-)

2018-11-22 16:52:03 UTC  

Glad I could help.

2018-11-22 16:52:19 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398858182455459853/515207918082195477/834567878327996416.jpg

2018-11-22 16:53:39 UTC  

Poppy, the US originated as sovereign states banding together in a federation.

2018-11-22 16:54:04 UTC  

We've explained this

2018-11-22 16:54:06 UTC  

Multiple times

2018-11-22 16:54:14 UTC  

Okay

2018-11-22 16:54:35 UTC  

I'll leave it, then

2018-11-22 16:54:40 UTC  

He says he gets it and then makes statements that prove he doesn't recognize or understand the distinction lol

2018-11-22 16:55:16 UTC  

Sounds good. I'll go enjoy my majority, then. 😂

2018-11-22 16:56:13 UTC  

I KNOW

2018-11-22 16:56:17 UTC  

no u dont

2018-11-22 16:56:43 UTC  

You clearly don't, or you're being willfully ignorant

2018-11-22 16:56:59 UTC  

Have you ever had a referendum where one persons vote is worth the same as any others?

2018-11-22 16:58:00 UTC  

Just like my grades should be worth the same as any othrs.

2018-11-22 16:58:08 UTC  

Lol that tranny of the majority is something else😂

2018-11-22 16:58:17 UTC  

Go read the text poppy

2018-11-22 16:58:55 UTC  

"the number of votes each state receives is proportional to its size --- the bigger the state's population the more "votes" it gets."µ

2018-11-22 16:58:59 UTC  

oh no