Message from @Beemann
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The Senate and the Electoral College are not affirmative action
@Beemann I know what AA is, I know why it is used. I'm not arguing if it is a good thing or not. I'm say that a repetitive democracy and the electoral collage work on thsame lines as
AA
But I must say I am highly amused by the multiple references above to the "tranny of the majority" :p
Best word choice error ever
Electoral college works as an equalizer for the states.
In your proposed system, CA & NY following your reasoning, would get affirmative action as in they will vote for their interests and by sheer fact of population concentration end up dictating politics to the entire country.
In effect, their voting power will nullify whatever the rest of the country votes for.
Also poppy, almost every western country works with a representative democracy.
Switzerland being one of the very few outliers.
``` CA & NY following your reasoning, would get affirmative action```
Nope. I'm not talking about staes. I'm talking about ppl being worth the same. This is where you lot are getting confused.
You are all one country.
^that is where you are not understanding the topic at hand
no its a federal state poppy
Why is one persons vote worth more?
goddamnit
a federal state =/= as a monarchy country for example
The only relevance I see with the consistency of democrat wins in the overall popular vote is that it serves as a reminder that the legitimacy of our government derives from the people
If those voters' will is confounded consistently we risk entering a crisis of confidence in the system
Try and imagin your country was a school and who gets in is not based on their score but their score plus bonus points for being from a perticula place.
>try to imagine your federal union of states wasn't a federal union of states
This is genuinely dumb
AA does not just have to be applied to race.
No, but it has to be applied to an arbitrary characteristic to serve a quota, separate from the purpose of the system. That's not what the electoral college is
```separate from the purpose of the system.```
So do you agree that some ppl should be given more of a chace?
I have no issue with the way the Senate and Electoral College is designed. I'm more concerned about gerrymandering. The House is the arm of government the founders specifically made to represent the will of the people. To ensure government didn't lose legitimacy in the eye of the majority. We risk losing that legitimacy when the House strays too far from that.
I'm not agueing that.
You have 100 pll here and 100 ppl there but they are counted as 150. How is thta not AA?
Anyway, thank you Poppy for giving me a good morning laugh. I'll be smiling about the tranny of the majority all day. :-)
Glad I could help.
Poppy, the US originated as sovereign states banding together in a federation.
We've explained this
Multiple times
Okay
I'll leave it, then
He says he gets it and then makes statements that prove he doesn't recognize or understand the distinction lol
Sounds good. I'll go enjoy my majority, then. 😂
I KNOW
no u dont
You clearly don't, or you're being willfully ignorant
Have you ever had a referendum where one persons vote is worth the same as any others?
Just like my grades should be worth the same as any othrs.