Message from @Amadeus

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2019-03-11 09:53:37 UTC  

Yes, it is a very flawed system, I do agree

2019-03-11 09:53:45 UTC  

Government should not be intermingling with corporations

2019-03-11 09:53:50 UTC  

It is very corrupt

2019-03-11 09:54:13 UTC  

The Government, in my own opinion, should put in place very necessary regualtions, and leave the rest of the market alone

2019-03-11 09:54:26 UTC  

That's not real capitalism!!!!!111111

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2019-03-11 09:54:31 UTC  

and there should be laws against lobbying, business subsidization, and other things

2019-03-11 09:54:44 UTC  

Tbh, the purest form of Capitalism you can see it from the age of Classical Era and Medieval era

2019-03-11 09:54:49 UTC  

You just don't understand what communism means, Amadeus.

2019-03-11 09:55:03 UTC  

Are you being sarcastic

2019-03-11 09:55:05 UTC  

The purest form of communism is the tribal age when everyone was exactly equal.

2019-03-11 09:55:07 UTC  

yes.

2019-03-11 09:55:16 UTC  

okay, just making sure

2019-03-11 09:55:22 UTC  

because i've heard that a lot of times, and it's hard to tell

2019-03-11 09:55:26 UTC  

Corporatism is capitalism, and it's the wrong kind.

2019-03-11 09:55:54 UTC  

There are good aspects to communism, and it is the best form of government in small, tribal communities. It's what we grew out of. Men hunted, women picked berries and got pregnant. Everyone ate.

2019-03-11 09:56:03 UTC  

i'm not arguing it isn't a form of capitalism, I am just saying it is not capitalism in terms of what capitalism represents

2019-03-11 09:56:06 UTC  

Small, tribal, and homogenous communities*

2019-03-11 09:56:27 UTC  

And yeah, it is. It's capitalism on the terms of which you write capitalism to be.

2019-03-11 09:56:27 UTC  

It is a perversion of the concept

2019-03-11 09:57:38 UTC  

No, it isn't

Capitalism is simply a form of economics where there is a private industry, you have the freedom of choice for jobs (as long as they hire you) and how you spend your money, and that you have private property

2019-03-11 09:57:45 UTC  

Anything else is an addition to the concept

2019-03-11 09:57:54 UTC  

A form or mutation

2019-03-11 09:58:54 UTC  

And I disagree, there is nothing good about communism, it is a flawed philosophy and ideology, because it does wants a global utopia, it does not actually focus on the microscale of small communities and tribes

2019-03-11 09:59:06 UTC  

Corporation Capitalism is the end-game of the elites. Massive corporations to control certain parts of the populous while no governments anymore remain and the Earth is split up on corporations. @Amadeus Also no Corporation Capitalism is Capitalism. Capitalism have a lot of branches that you can go on, it's not a mutation.

2019-03-11 09:59:10 UTC  

I'm talking pre-Marx

2019-03-11 09:59:27 UTC  

I am not

2019-03-11 09:59:50 UTC  

@Iakovos Communism wasn't even on tribal level. Even then you had Leaders/higher rank people/shamans etc that they had different power

2019-03-11 10:00:16 UTC  

It's a mutation in terms of how ideologies grow overtime and branch off

2019-03-11 10:00:28 UTC  

That's what some of the elites want, anyway lol

2019-03-11 10:00:39 UTC  

Humanity is corrupt and it needs to be nuked.

2019-03-11 10:00:39 UTC  

The closest thing to a functioning communism is the small population of priests that live by themselves like in Monasteries

2019-03-11 10:01:11 UTC  

There have been small instances of communist-like functions working to varying degrees of success here and there throughout history

2019-03-11 10:01:40 UTC  

I forget their name, but a sect of protestant Christianity that lived in like the Great Plains region was very communal

2019-03-11 10:02:13 UTC  

I am not sure how long they lasted, but I do know the name is associated with fridge brands and stuff, so I assume it stopped at some point

2019-03-11 10:02:31 UTC  

I don't think communism implies lack of hierarchy, there is still order and structure, except that wealth and goods are distributed by overseers. However, that is dependent on those overseers, or people running the logistics of the communist empire are not morally reprehensible and stealing from the nation's wealth.

There is a difference between anarcho-communism, which is lack of society and literally a pipe dream, and Stalinism/Maoism.

2019-03-11 10:03:11 UTC  

Communism in its purest theory as proposed by Marx is a society without hierarchy

2019-03-11 10:03:25 UTC  

It is total equality of everyone

2019-03-11 10:03:36 UTC  

But can't you revise that, Amadeus, just like you can revise Capitalism?

2019-03-11 10:03:42 UTC  

Add to, subtract?

2019-03-11 10:03:42 UTC  

And as I said, the only pure form of Communism that exists, you will find it only in monasteries that priests live.

2019-03-11 10:03:52 UTC  

Did I say you can't? No