Now, it may have existed in special instances that I am not aware of, but I am speaking in general terms

You forgot to add that socialism is making people to be depended on the Government 😛

that's the point of the transitional stage

the USSR isn't called the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics for nothing

I meant the capitalism we have today where the government is paying big bucks to corporations to do shady shit, and vice versa.

The thing is, we allowed that shit to happen though

Communism will only work in small, homogenous communities.

When people claim things such as the USSR aren't "real communism", they're wrong and here's why:

Even though it is in the socialist, dictatorship of the proletariat phase of Marxism, it is still wanting to progress towards communism, and is thus communist. If actively existing in a communist society is what made you communist, then no one would actually be communist, because that isn't possible except on small, homogeneous scales (with varied outcomes). What makes you communist is wanting to instill a communist society, and attempting to do so through any number of means.

Nations that claim themselves to be communist states always freeze up in the dictatorship stage, because there is literally nowhere else to go. It becomes stuck, because you cannot physically achieve the communist utopia. It's actually impossible. Most states experience one of three things by what I have seen. One, the country destabilizes and collapses. Two, the country simply stagnates and nothing comes of it except continued poverty, starvation, and other bad things. Or three, the country tries to turn itself around to some extent.

China, for example, turned itself around by embracing free markets to a certain extent

It still swears it is communist, but is has opened itself to global trade and has become what you would call "state capitalist"

Which is very communistic still in ideology when you actually read the definitions of what state capitalism is

The USSR attempted to turn itself around, that was the purpose of glasnost and perestroika

However, it was unable to fix the damage, and it collapsed

North Korea and Cuba are examples of stagnation

(also i'd say Vietnam is another example of it turning itself around; embracing the tourism industry, among other things, isn't working towards a communist utopia)

That would be corporatism and crony capitalism

Which, as I said, are forms of capitalism, but they do not represent capitalism for what it truly is

Which is a shame, because it is that misconception that many people have

Which is why so many people dislike what they call "capitalism"

Without understanding what it actually means

Yes, it is a very flawed system, I do agree

Government should not be intermingling with corporations

It is very corrupt

The Government, in my own opinion, should put in place very necessary regualtions, and leave the rest of the market alone

That's not real capitalism!!!!!111111

and there should be laws against lobbying, business subsidization, and other things

Tbh, the purest form of Capitalism you can see it from the age of Classical Era and Medieval era

You just don't understand what communism means, Amadeus.

Are you being sarcastic

The purest form of communism is the tribal age when everyone was exactly equal.

yes.

okay, just making sure

because i've heard that a lot of times, and it's hard to tell

Corporatism is capitalism, and it's the wrong kind.

There are good aspects to communism, and it is the best form of government in small, tribal communities. It's what we grew out of. Men hunted, women picked berries and got pregnant. Everyone ate.

i'm not arguing it isn't a form of capitalism, I am just saying it is not capitalism in terms of what capitalism represents

Small, tribal, and homogenous communities*

And yeah, it is. It's capitalism on the terms of which you write capitalism to be.

It is a perversion of the concept

No, it isn't

Capitalism is simply a form of economics where there is a private industry, you have the freedom of choice for jobs (as long as they hire you) and how you spend your money, and that you have private property

Anything else is an addition to the concept