Message from @kontroll
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No, because you need a known Rep crazy to pin it on.
The guy fits all the stereotypes ... perfect pawn...
What if he rats them out though? There's no way of ruling out that possibility.
Sure, but it will just be viewed as a stunt to get out of the charges ... he cops a plea deal and take a less sentence.
Seems like an extremely unnecessary risk. I wouldn't take it if I had the resources and motivation to do this sort of thing.
No real risk, the only risk is if the handler back stabs you. That's why it is an expensive job, but some "Political Consulting" group.
Eh, it's possible. I just don't see it being reasonable personally.
And this group is probable 3rd hand, so if caught plausible deniability ...
If you search the internet, there are far more complicated schemes financed. This one is not that difficult actually.
Lone guy living in a van, befriend him, alcohol, money, women at the strip bar ... invite him back to your man cave for beers and joke about the evil Dems and making bombs .... have the material laid out etc ... he is drunk, his hands are all over it .... then send it out.
Of course it's not difficult, that's not my issue. I'm just saying there's no special skills required for any of this, and a reasonably unhinged person could easily pull it off, without any need for other actors to be involved at any point.
Except maybe some guy cutting PVC pipes up for him at the hardware store.
Oh sure, doing it that way would actually be much more reasonable.
"I didn't do it, I swear, and I have nobody else to point to" would be much better.
Probably cheaper too.
The handler blackmails, so he is implicated ...
Says, just kidding .... but this is part of the trap ... he double crosses and sends it out.
I meant what you said about getting the guy drunk enough to pass out and just get whatever prints / DNA stuff you need.
Yes another possibility ...
So we shall see when the question him to see how and where the bombs were made ...
We may never know the details. If I am him, I would claim I was duped, but have no evidence of this.
Police eager to convict, will get him to plead guilty, and for sure the evidence will point to guilty.
He may get a lesser sentence this way...
Whether true or not ... police won't want to perpetuate conspiracy theories .... zip it up neatly. Part of the plea deal will be to shut up about any conspiracy nonsense.
At least years later, when it won't matter.
If this guy is really a Trump nut, and he or his lawyer is smart, float the "I was duped conspiracy" story and make MSM go nuts ... true or not, think of the effect ... and possible better plea deal to admit in fact the story is a hoax.
He was too drunk to remember anything ... he is a looser after all....
@kontroll that is a neat usb powered soldiering iron. A great find. My old field soldering is running on lighter gas.
@4AM_critter 🐉 Probably way more reliable though. As I recall this thing had a compromise that impacted its longevity in order to make it even work in the first place.
you know, if I was an absolutely crazy trump nut that wanted to set all this up as a conspiracy theory right before the election, I'd probably do the same as this guy is doing, except have hidden in some safety deposit box somewhere evidence that the democrats paid me to do it, and 'accidentally' reveal it a few days after I was caught.
The ends justify the means, much?
His targets were all too perfectly selected, all mega-important faces of the dems, but most of them are already out of office and meaningless in terms of future elections, and his 'bombs' apparently were all completely nonfunctional, so no one was ever in any danger to begin with.
That's the perfect choice of targeting, because that means no active candidate would be able to play the victim card, only people who're already out of the race.
I think that's the part that really has so many people looking at this and immediately thinking it has to be some kind of bigger plan, some greater event, some sinister hand behind the curtain pulling the puppet strings.
If he was just some crazy moron without a plan... his target selection was weirdly precise.
If he is actually intelligent... or whoever controlled him is intelligent if you want to go conspiracy theory...
Then ... yeah... it's either a huge false flag op by the dems and they were too stupid to target active candidates to give individual boosts, they just picked big names to make mainstream news. (Which would fit their NPC level logic circuits.)
Or there's another step of this yet to come out as the entire story gets twisted at the last minute to reveal something similar to what I suggested.
I'm not saying either of these are accurate, he really could've just picked his targets via dumb luck selection. But again, the weirdly specific and narrow choices he hit on are what is prompting these suspicions.
i think it's a bit too much to expect some nutter with a dozen priors to be intelligent enough to think of or even participate in a plan like that
simplest and most likely case, he's just some random trumpist who snapped and tried sending bombs to high profile targets despite being ignorant on how to make them
I rather agree with that statement myself, I was merely toying with the reason why it has the easy makings of a big conspiracy theory.
oh, aye
he carried it out so spectacularly and dramatically but without any competence or chance at success, it really invites conspiracy theories
my natural reaction is "nobody can *really* be that stupid, surely"
but they can, apparently