Message from @Beemann

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2018-12-04 21:11:05 UTC  

"Multiple Shots" (on page 9) , and "Multiple Tows" (on page 135)

2018-12-04 21:15:33 UTC  

so there sure as hell weren't anyone calling in "2 shooters!"

2018-12-04 21:24:13 UTC  

No but there is footage of people running away from the location of a nonexistent shooter

2018-12-04 21:24:40 UTC  

Parkland had one of the students claim she was with the shooter when shots were fired, which caused people to erroneously believe there were two

2018-12-04 21:24:44 UTC  

Weird shit like that

2018-12-04 21:25:17 UTC  

Needs to be vetted obviously, and news orgs jump the gun

2018-12-04 21:25:48 UTC  

hold on a minute, i fucked up
https://i.imgur.com/n8aHUfU.png

2018-12-04 21:31:46 UTC  

isn't it illegal to provide false alibi in the US?

2018-12-04 21:36:41 UTC  

(even when not under any kind of oath, i mean) ... "Yeah, i saw him, he was standing right next to me"... She could of course claim being a total moron or poor of eyesight

2018-12-04 21:38:45 UTC  

I can't remember the details of it, but no it isn't illegal to BS the media AFAIK

2018-12-04 21:39:20 UTC  

not even when it impacts ongoing police investigation?

2018-12-04 21:39:34 UTC  

Did it impact the investigation?

2018-12-04 21:40:57 UTC  

i kind of assumed it, since you said a witness claimed it; The police had already concluded on one shooter? _"Parkland had one of the students claim she was with the shooter when shots were fired, which caused people to erroneously believe there were two"_

2018-12-04 21:41:42 UTC  

Well with Parkland they caught the shooter the same day iirc

2018-12-04 21:42:38 UTC  

Most school shootings the shooter commits suicide at the end anyway (whether by cop or their own firearm) so it's pretty straightforward

2018-12-04 21:43:45 UTC  

And this controversy came about from from a student witness saying she was with the shooter, when shots got fired? _AFTER_ the fact?

2018-12-04 21:44:09 UTC  

was she not put on witness stand?!?!?

2018-12-04 21:44:12 UTC  

Well it wasn't much in the way of controversy. A blip on the radar really. It was just a claim that popped up

2018-12-04 21:44:28 UTC  

Pretty sure the shooter confessed but I'd have to go look again

2018-12-04 21:44:57 UTC  

A couple of the Vegas survivors also challenged the narrative. The issue is that witness testimony is shite

2018-12-04 21:45:48 UTC  

Same thing happens with most of the high profile police brutality/shooting cases. People claim shit that didn't happen, and they often claim it sincerely

2018-12-04 21:46:01 UTC  

forget about that.. HOW was a witness that claimed she was with an accused shooter, not put on witness stand??

2018-12-04 21:46:24 UTC  

That is impossible!

2018-12-04 21:46:26 UTC  

Probably because her testimony wasn't deemed relevant for either side's case

2018-12-04 21:47:03 UTC  

well that must mean she was either blind, psychotic, too mentally challenged, be considered as witness etc..

2018-12-04 21:48:04 UTC  

Ah there we go

2018-12-04 21:48:08 UTC  

Events were the other way around

2018-12-04 21:48:12 UTC  

And her testimony fit in

2018-12-04 21:48:17 UTC  

In a crisis situation it can be very difficult to keep straight what is happening.

2018-12-04 21:48:32 UTC  

But thought shots had come from the other end of the building

2018-12-04 21:48:40 UTC  

And basically that, yes

2018-12-04 21:48:46 UTC  

I've dealt with such confusion professionally when responding to a crisis or disaster

2018-12-04 21:49:30 UTC  

@DrYuriMom in such a situation you normally don't prioritize to get your ass in front of a cameria

2018-12-04 21:49:35 UTC  

We had a murder suicide come to the ED that we thought at first was a double murder with a free range shooter

2018-12-04 21:49:48 UTC  

Media comes around and interviews everyone

2018-12-04 21:50:41 UTC  

Lock down happened but we soon realized the police just didn't want to accept a mother murdered her son and then herself and the boyfriend was innocently walking a dog through it all.

2018-12-04 21:51:29 UTC  

It was a therapy inducing nightmare all around.

2018-12-04 21:52:57 UTC  

@DrYuriMom Mind telling me what city that was?

2018-12-04 21:54:20 UTC  

@DrYuriMom (i'm not calling you a liar, i'm just a bit shocked, and surprised, that such a situation could have such an impact on police as to be special memorable case)

2018-12-04 21:55:28 UTC  

That's a pretty fucked up case. It'd be fairly memorable I would think

2018-12-04 21:57:16 UTC  

aye, though not that unusual, sadly enough