Message from @Beemann

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2018-12-04 21:31:46 UTC  

isn't it illegal to provide false alibi in the US?

2018-12-04 21:36:41 UTC  

(even when not under any kind of oath, i mean) ... "Yeah, i saw him, he was standing right next to me"... She could of course claim being a total moron or poor of eyesight

2018-12-04 21:38:45 UTC  

I can't remember the details of it, but no it isn't illegal to BS the media AFAIK

2018-12-04 21:39:20 UTC  

not even when it impacts ongoing police investigation?

2018-12-04 21:39:34 UTC  

Did it impact the investigation?

2018-12-04 21:40:57 UTC  

i kind of assumed it, since you said a witness claimed it; The police had already concluded on one shooter? _"Parkland had one of the students claim she was with the shooter when shots were fired, which caused people to erroneously believe there were two"_

2018-12-04 21:41:42 UTC  

Well with Parkland they caught the shooter the same day iirc

2018-12-04 21:42:38 UTC  

Most school shootings the shooter commits suicide at the end anyway (whether by cop or their own firearm) so it's pretty straightforward

2018-12-04 21:43:45 UTC  

And this controversy came about from from a student witness saying she was with the shooter, when shots got fired? _AFTER_ the fact?

2018-12-04 21:44:09 UTC  

was she not put on witness stand?!?!?

2018-12-04 21:44:12 UTC  

Well it wasn't much in the way of controversy. A blip on the radar really. It was just a claim that popped up

2018-12-04 21:44:28 UTC  

Pretty sure the shooter confessed but I'd have to go look again

2018-12-04 21:44:57 UTC  

A couple of the Vegas survivors also challenged the narrative. The issue is that witness testimony is shite

2018-12-04 21:45:48 UTC  

Same thing happens with most of the high profile police brutality/shooting cases. People claim shit that didn't happen, and they often claim it sincerely

2018-12-04 21:46:01 UTC  

forget about that.. HOW was a witness that claimed she was with an accused shooter, not put on witness stand??

2018-12-04 21:46:24 UTC  

That is impossible!

2018-12-04 21:46:26 UTC  

Probably because her testimony wasn't deemed relevant for either side's case

2018-12-04 21:47:03 UTC  

well that must mean she was either blind, psychotic, too mentally challenged, be considered as witness etc..

2018-12-04 21:48:04 UTC  

Ah there we go

2018-12-04 21:48:08 UTC  

Events were the other way around

2018-12-04 21:48:12 UTC  

And her testimony fit in

2018-12-04 21:48:17 UTC  

In a crisis situation it can be very difficult to keep straight what is happening.

2018-12-04 21:48:32 UTC  

But thought shots had come from the other end of the building

2018-12-04 21:48:40 UTC  

And basically that, yes

2018-12-04 21:48:46 UTC  

I've dealt with such confusion professionally when responding to a crisis or disaster

2018-12-04 21:49:30 UTC  

@DrYuriMom in such a situation you normally don't prioritize to get your ass in front of a cameria

2018-12-04 21:49:35 UTC  

We had a murder suicide come to the ED that we thought at first was a double murder with a free range shooter

2018-12-04 21:49:48 UTC  

Media comes around and interviews everyone

2018-12-04 21:50:41 UTC  

Lock down happened but we soon realized the police just didn't want to accept a mother murdered her son and then herself and the boyfriend was innocently walking a dog through it all.

2018-12-04 21:51:29 UTC  

It was a therapy inducing nightmare all around.

2018-12-04 21:52:57 UTC  

@DrYuriMom Mind telling me what city that was?

2018-12-04 21:54:20 UTC  

@DrYuriMom (i'm not calling you a liar, i'm just a bit shocked, and surprised, that such a situation could have such an impact on police as to be special memorable case)

2018-12-04 21:55:28 UTC  

That's a pretty fucked up case. It'd be fairly memorable I would think

2018-12-04 21:57:16 UTC  

aye, though not that unusual, sadly enough

2018-12-04 21:58:26 UTC  

But maybe it was an otherwise peaceful, low crime, area

2018-12-04 22:01:00 UTC  

its a pretty fucked up case that is not as uncommon as it should be

2018-12-04 22:04:34 UTC  

I either watch too much American news, or americans don't know what's going on in their country news-wise... I think i can pick tree such cases off the top of my head even :/ When a mother literally broiled her child in a oven :/

2018-12-04 22:05:54 UTC  

one case, the mother kept facebook messaging the father at work, as she was killing his son..texting "I think he's dead" at the end, and them some crazy shit.

2018-12-04 22:06:06 UTC  

Three is not very many in the grand scheme of things

2018-12-04 22:06:40 UTC  

There's also a huge difference between hearing about something and being, to some degree, involved in the incident

2018-12-04 22:07:25 UTC  

aye