Message from @Undead Mockingbird

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2018-11-07 10:42:18 UTC  

If this triggers emotions, it is value YOU project, not I.

2018-11-07 10:42:20 UTC  

That's the thing, you can not say that either is race based or it is not. Both belong together.

2018-11-07 10:42:25 UTC  

@Cody culture is created by race not religion.
that race of people can also create religion.😉

2018-11-07 10:42:35 UTC  

Please explain

2018-11-07 10:42:49 UTC  

@Undead Mockingbird environmental factors will inform behavior but that in my estimate is quite separate from culture as a whole. I grew up in a tropical country that had 3 different types of environments packed together. The culture among the majority race and religion was essentially the same throughout with minor cuisine differences

2018-11-07 10:43:34 UTC  

@RadialDerp That is different from the culture you adopt by birth, but it is not separate from how cultures DEVELOP, over many thousand years.

2018-11-07 10:43:35 UTC  

you guys are discussing outdated stuff. With more means of travel and the internet, culture is more scathered than ever

2018-11-07 10:44:12 UTC  

Your telling me that in 1642 africans and Europeans would have the same culture if they existed in the opposite geographic locations?

2018-11-07 10:44:28 UTC  

Ie Europeans in Africa, and Africans in Europe

2018-11-07 10:44:31 UTC  

he's right

2018-11-07 10:44:33 UTC  

A culture in a cold climate is likely to develop differently than one in a warm climate. That does not imply that someone from the reverse culture, brought into the culture of the other ethnicity, would not be able to adopt the culture.

2018-11-07 10:44:34 UTC  

@Stefan Payne please expand on what you mean by comparison of Europe and Indochina

2018-11-07 10:44:39 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509549100061163520/509679573596635163/2000.png

2018-11-07 10:44:40 UTC  

people as culture hit milestones

2018-11-07 10:44:52 UTC  

you can't predict culture changes

2018-11-07 10:45:05 UTC  

However, if a culture is strongly centered around hunting, and people with long legs were more likely to be successful hunters, then a culture with short people will probably not fare as well.

2018-11-07 10:45:28 UTC  

I don't understand how any of this is controversial, and I understand even less why anyone would get upset over it.

2018-11-07 10:45:36 UTC  

```@Stefan Payne please expand on what you mean by comparison of Europe and Indochina```
Both developed cultures and were pretty evenly matched. But in Indochina it developed more towards autoritarian/collectivism (the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few), while the west developed more towards individualism.

2018-11-07 10:45:51 UTC  

Oh, wow

2018-11-07 10:45:56 UTC  

Let's take another example.

2018-11-07 10:45:58 UTC  

So you can't really seperate Race and Culture because both are intertwined.

2018-11-07 10:45:58 UTC  

Slanted eyes!

2018-11-07 10:46:16 UTC  

There is a very good reason why Chinese have slanted eyes and why Europeans tend to have blue eyes.

2018-11-07 10:46:18 UTC  

@Undead Mockingbird that's not what controversial

2018-11-07 10:46:19 UTC  

@Undead Mockingbird you are operating under the premise that culture is set in stone and doesn't fluctuate quite rapidly over short periods of time. What you are describing is human behavior adaptations to environment. Quite distinct from how sociocultural behavior takes root

2018-11-07 10:46:28 UTC  

The reasons are simple and related to the sun light.

2018-11-07 10:46:32 UTC  

@Stefan Payne that didn't happen until the 1400s

2018-11-07 10:46:36 UTC  

The culture is because of the people that made the culture and the people the way they are because of culture. Chicken <-> Egg Problems.

2018-11-07 10:46:43 UTC  

@Stefan Payne what's your opinion on Japan btw? They embrace collectivism but are VERY individualistic too

2018-11-07 10:46:46 UTC  

The reason this whole thing got started was because Jasse was trying to convince us that Jew are to blame and the blacks are lesser people

2018-11-07 10:47:03 UTC  

^

2018-11-07 10:47:11 UTC  

@RadialDerp No, I never said it's set in stone. I just said there are REASONS why a culture is likely to develop one way or not the other.

2018-11-07 10:47:22 UTC  

Jesus, stop projecting onto everything I say, please!

2018-11-07 10:47:24 UTC  

@DanteMenace Population of Africa ~1800
90 Million.
IIRC France had half of that at the time.

2018-11-07 10:47:36 UTC  

Culture is HIGHLY flexible.

2018-11-07 10:47:37 UTC  

well.. most jews are to blame for the identity politics being played nowadays

2018-11-07 10:47:39 UTC  

And Africa is huuuuuge.....

2018-11-07 10:47:55 UTC  

@.B no they aren'y

2018-11-07 10:47:57 UTC  

there are AT LEAST

2018-11-07 10:47:58 UTC  

@DanteMenace see. interesting conversation started thanks to me.