Message from @Stefan Payne

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2018-11-07 10:39:39 UTC  

This is known as the Savannah Effect, among other things.

2018-11-07 10:39:43 UTC  

That as well. Its the Winter Theorie. IMO its one point but not the only noe.

2018-11-07 10:39:46 UTC  

@Stefan Payne I highly agree

2018-11-07 10:40:06 UTC  

and in colder climates with low population, you can make it through the Winter without planning, you just need to hunt deer or so.

2018-11-07 10:40:31 UTC  

So, I am not even being controversial here.

2018-11-07 10:40:36 UTC  

@Undead Mockingbird Inform how? Race has nothing to do with culture it depends on the society you live in and if you integrate well into the prevalent cultural environment. I would argue that religion plays a more important role in informing culture than race does.

2018-11-07 10:40:44 UTC  

It's just that those topics always arouse an undue amount of emotions.

2018-11-07 10:41:03 UTC  

@RadialDerp I just explained how.

2018-11-07 10:41:13 UTC  

I am not going to rehash it again. Scroll up.

2018-11-07 10:41:20 UTC  

@RadialDerp That's the Nature vs. Nurture Argument. And you can't distinguish both from each other....

2018-11-07 10:41:29 UTC  

but we have two examples: Europe and Indochina.

2018-11-07 10:41:34 UTC  

look at what happened here and there.

2018-11-07 10:41:36 UTC  

Culture is created by religion, religion is based on geography

2018-11-07 10:41:39 UTC  

*he is too low IQ to understand what you said*😏

2018-11-07 10:41:48 UTC  

What part of that is race based?

2018-11-07 10:41:59 UTC  

Ones are more in the direction of personal freedom, others more of collective things.

2018-11-07 10:42:06 UTC  

BTW, I have not even made a single statement of judgment. Any amount of anger that is caused by this discussion is projection on the part of OTHERS what value I assign, not me.

2018-11-07 10:42:18 UTC  

If this triggers emotions, it is value YOU project, not I.

2018-11-07 10:42:20 UTC  

That's the thing, you can not say that either is race based or it is not. Both belong together.

2018-11-07 10:42:25 UTC  

@Cody culture is created by race not religion.
that race of people can also create religion.😉

2018-11-07 10:42:35 UTC  

Please explain

2018-11-07 10:42:49 UTC  

@Undead Mockingbird environmental factors will inform behavior but that in my estimate is quite separate from culture as a whole. I grew up in a tropical country that had 3 different types of environments packed together. The culture among the majority race and religion was essentially the same throughout with minor cuisine differences

2018-11-07 10:43:34 UTC  

@RadialDerp That is different from the culture you adopt by birth, but it is not separate from how cultures DEVELOP, over many thousand years.

2018-11-07 10:43:35 UTC  

you guys are discussing outdated stuff. With more means of travel and the internet, culture is more scathered than ever

2018-11-07 10:44:12 UTC  

Your telling me that in 1642 africans and Europeans would have the same culture if they existed in the opposite geographic locations?

2018-11-07 10:44:28 UTC  

Ie Europeans in Africa, and Africans in Europe

2018-11-07 10:44:31 UTC  

he's right

2018-11-07 10:44:33 UTC  

A culture in a cold climate is likely to develop differently than one in a warm climate. That does not imply that someone from the reverse culture, brought into the culture of the other ethnicity, would not be able to adopt the culture.

2018-11-07 10:44:34 UTC  

@Stefan Payne please expand on what you mean by comparison of Europe and Indochina

2018-11-07 10:44:39 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509549100061163520/509679573596635163/2000.png

2018-11-07 10:44:40 UTC  

people as culture hit milestones

2018-11-07 10:44:52 UTC  

you can't predict culture changes

2018-11-07 10:45:05 UTC  

However, if a culture is strongly centered around hunting, and people with long legs were more likely to be successful hunters, then a culture with short people will probably not fare as well.

2018-11-07 10:45:28 UTC  

I don't understand how any of this is controversial, and I understand even less why anyone would get upset over it.

2018-11-07 10:45:36 UTC  

```@Stefan Payne please expand on what you mean by comparison of Europe and Indochina```
Both developed cultures and were pretty evenly matched. But in Indochina it developed more towards autoritarian/collectivism (the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few), while the west developed more towards individualism.

2018-11-07 10:45:51 UTC  

Oh, wow

2018-11-07 10:45:56 UTC  

Let's take another example.

2018-11-07 10:45:58 UTC  

So you can't really seperate Race and Culture because both are intertwined.