Message from @RadialDerp
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@RadialDerp That's the Nature vs. Nurture Argument. And you can't distinguish both from each other....
but we have two examples: Europe and Indochina.
look at what happened here and there.
Culture is created by religion, religion is based on geography
*he is too low IQ to understand what you said*😏
What part of that is race based?
Ones are more in the direction of personal freedom, others more of collective things.
BTW, I have not even made a single statement of judgment. Any amount of anger that is caused by this discussion is projection on the part of OTHERS what value I assign, not me.
If this triggers emotions, it is value YOU project, not I.
That's the thing, you can not say that either is race based or it is not. Both belong together.
@Cody culture is created by race not religion.
that race of people can also create religion.😉
Please explain
@Undead Mockingbird environmental factors will inform behavior but that in my estimate is quite separate from culture as a whole. I grew up in a tropical country that had 3 different types of environments packed together. The culture among the majority race and religion was essentially the same throughout with minor cuisine differences
@RadialDerp That is different from the culture you adopt by birth, but it is not separate from how cultures DEVELOP, over many thousand years.
you guys are discussing outdated stuff. With more means of travel and the internet, culture is more scathered than ever
Your telling me that in 1642 africans and Europeans would have the same culture if they existed in the opposite geographic locations?
Ie Europeans in Africa, and Africans in Europe
he's right
A culture in a cold climate is likely to develop differently than one in a warm climate. That does not imply that someone from the reverse culture, brought into the culture of the other ethnicity, would not be able to adopt the culture.
people as culture hit milestones
you can't predict culture changes
However, if a culture is strongly centered around hunting, and people with long legs were more likely to be successful hunters, then a culture with short people will probably not fare as well.
I don't understand how any of this is controversial, and I understand even less why anyone would get upset over it.
```@Stefan Payne please expand on what you mean by comparison of Europe and Indochina```
Both developed cultures and were pretty evenly matched. But in Indochina it developed more towards autoritarian/collectivism (the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few), while the west developed more towards individualism.
Oh, wow
Let's take another example.
So you can't really seperate Race and Culture because both are intertwined.
Slanted eyes!
There is a very good reason why Chinese have slanted eyes and why Europeans tend to have blue eyes.
@Undead Mockingbird that's not what controversial
@Undead Mockingbird you are operating under the premise that culture is set in stone and doesn't fluctuate quite rapidly over short periods of time. What you are describing is human behavior adaptations to environment. Quite distinct from how sociocultural behavior takes root
The reasons are simple and related to the sun light.
@Stefan Payne that didn't happen until the 1400s
The culture is because of the people that made the culture and the people the way they are because of culture. Chicken <-> Egg Problems.
@Stefan Payne what's your opinion on Japan btw? They embrace collectivism but are VERY individualistic too
The reason this whole thing got started was because Jasse was trying to convince us that Jew are to blame and the blacks are lesser people
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@RadialDerp No, I never said it's set in stone. I just said there are REASONS why a culture is likely to develop one way or not the other.