A navy which they did not have

sealion has been gamed so mnay times I suspect the scenario drives some people to tears, only a very very few times did sealion succeed

Sealion wouldn't succeed

It'd be sunk to the bottom of the English Channel.

sealion was absolutely mind blowingly stupid

There was of course the "sentiment" among some German high staff that the British would surrender

deliver more divisions to england than the allies did during the normandly landings, across a contested english channel with the RN at full strength, and only having life jackets for for the first wave.

and, using rhine barges

Rudolf Hess even went there personally, which was very idiotic

RHINE BARGES

I've seen modern rhine barges, their deck is so low to the river that a wake caused by a destroyer would have sunk the fucking t hings

rhine barges from the 40s?

Some people also say victory on the Eastern Front would've been possible.

deathtraps

What do you think about the "Victory on the Eastern front"?

9/10 sealion shortens the war for the allies and hastens the defeat of the germans

I think any scenario where the allies can aid russia ends in failure for the germans

germans penetrated to far too quickly in the initial assault, got bogged down by winter, then made an absolute monster of themselves by butchering so many that they were guarenteed their "internal lines" through occupied territories were contested

then t hey hit russian reserves backed by lease lend hitting and isolated their battle groups

lend lease even

Lend Lease or not, the Germans wouldn't have won

no lend lease the germans MIGHT have

What took the Germans down was Soviet blood.

no lend lease certainly would have prolonged the campaign by a number of years

Something that would hve helped is Germany talking murmansk

They failed to do so in 1941

that soviet blood was transported in western trucks, western trains, western jeeps, with substantial numbers of western tanks and also western planes

Western jeeps, fair.

Western tanks, few and far between

soviet production at the time was concentrated on teeth arms, US and UK supplied most of their logistics train

western tanks were quite numerous

Western planes were looked down upon since the ones they got from, f.ex the British were outdated and had already seen battle.

but the t-34 and the myth around it hides their use

russians had issues wiht the spitfire, I think largely because of maintenance and how it was used ...

but aircobra? they loved the aircobra

Hello

likely the only "allies" who did

aircobra?

P-40

Hi yathy

Do you mean, western tanks were few in Russian forces, or western tanks were few in the war in general?