Message from @Ikea-Chan

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2018-12-26 02:17:30 UTC  

So it was a good idea to begin the production of it

2018-12-26 02:17:30 UTC  

The Pershing came in too late *because it was deliberately shelved*.

2018-12-26 02:17:54 UTC  

Also, the Pershing did prove its worth in Korea

2018-12-26 02:17:59 UTC  

The design was ready to go by 42-43.

2018-12-26 02:18:11 UTC  

The Pershings out matched the Soviet T-34-85

2018-12-26 02:18:24 UTC  

the pershing was shelved because it was too late and could not be fielded in sufficient numbers WITH ITS LOGISTIC TRAIN to be of any significant improvement over what else could be produced

2018-12-26 02:19:14 UTC  

I'll have to say, the German TDs were quite scary

2018-12-26 02:19:26 UTC  

dunno, never met any

2018-12-26 02:19:30 UTC  

have you?

2018-12-26 02:19:41 UTC  

No, but in the perspective of WW2

2018-12-26 02:19:59 UTC  

dunno, not a historian, and wasnt in WW2, where you?

2018-12-26 02:20:23 UTC  

seriously I'd listen to the chieftan, he goes over the pershing myth. also tank destroyers

2018-12-26 02:20:41 UTC  

he's also someone who has studied the era, and is a current tanker ...

2018-12-26 02:21:08 UTC  

I'm gonna continue.

2018-12-26 02:21:24 UTC  

German TDs varied a lot

2018-12-26 02:21:32 UTC  

thats fine but I'm still out of booze unless I hit the whisky which I want to keep for NY

2018-12-26 02:21:36 UTC  

and the port

2018-12-26 02:21:40 UTC  

Some were barely produced, Dicker Max and Jagdtiger

2018-12-26 02:21:46 UTC  

for which i am probably too drunk to appreciate

2018-12-26 02:22:04 UTC  

Some were mass produced, Stug III/IV and Hetzer

2018-12-26 02:22:17 UTC  

But most of them did their job well

2018-12-26 02:22:52 UTC  

Ok I dont know anything about tanks lol so I'll just watch this

2018-12-26 02:23:04 UTC  

Some of the bigger ones like Jagdtigers and Jagdpanthers faced many of the same problems that their "parent" tanks did

2018-12-26 02:23:28 UTC  

German engineering was flawed in general

2018-12-26 02:23:51 UTC  

While Stug III/IVs and Hetzers did not since they were built on tankses with generally few problems

2018-12-26 02:23:55 UTC  

wtf, panzer 3 escape hatch is behind shelving and storage boxes?!

2018-12-26 02:24:22 UTC  

There were also prototypes like the Dicker Max that there were only 2 prototypea of

2018-12-26 02:24:30 UTC  

But a Dicker Max **did** see combat

2018-12-26 02:24:44 UTC  

woopy, single td

2018-12-26 02:24:56 UTC  

held back the soviets coming through the fulda right?

2018-12-26 02:24:59 UTC  

And I believe when the Soviets caught it, it had 50 kills.

2018-12-26 02:25:21 UTC  

riiiiight on that claim I would want to see as much evidence as can be provided

2018-12-26 02:26:14 UTC  

Then there were the Ferdinands and Elefants

2018-12-26 02:26:14 UTC  

Empiricism is commie propaganda.

2018-12-26 02:26:28 UTC  

Which were so bad

2018-12-26 02:26:38 UTC  

That they could catch fire when going up a hill

2018-12-26 02:27:03 UTC  

The weight was just too great

2018-12-26 02:27:28 UTC  

Especially on the Elefant since the Elefant is litteraly only a Ferdinand with extra armor and a machine gun

2018-12-26 02:28:35 UTC  

The big TDs, or generally any big German tankses did bad in the end of the war

2018-12-26 02:28:55 UTC  

The biggest problems were allied fighter-bombers

2018-12-26 02:29:02 UTC  

And their logistical problems