Message from @Brant
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the pershing was shelved because it was too late and could not be fielded in sufficient numbers WITH ITS LOGISTIC TRAIN to be of any significant improvement over what else could be produced
I'll have to say, the German TDs were quite scary
dunno, never met any
have you?
No, but in the perspective of WW2
dunno, not a historian, and wasnt in WW2, where you?
seriously I'd listen to the chieftan, he goes over the pershing myth. also tank destroyers
he's also someone who has studied the era, and is a current tanker ...
I'm gonna continue.
German TDs varied a lot
thats fine but I'm still out of booze unless I hit the whisky which I want to keep for NY
and the port
Some were barely produced, Dicker Max and Jagdtiger
for which i am probably too drunk to appreciate
Some were mass produced, Stug III/IV and Hetzer
But most of them did their job well
Ok I dont know anything about tanks lol so I'll just watch this
Some of the bigger ones like Jagdtigers and Jagdpanthers faced many of the same problems that their "parent" tanks did
German engineering was flawed in general
While Stug III/IVs and Hetzers did not since they were built on tankses with generally few problems
There were also prototypes like the Dicker Max that there were only 2 prototypea of
But a Dicker Max **did** see combat
woopy, single td
held back the soviets coming through the fulda right?
And I believe when the Soviets caught it, it had 50 kills.
riiiiight on that claim I would want to see as much evidence as can be provided
Then there were the Ferdinands and Elefants
Empiricism is commie propaganda.
Which were so bad
That they could catch fire when going up a hill
The weight was just too great
Especially on the Elefant since the Elefant is litteraly only a Ferdinand with extra armor and a machine gun
The big TDs, or generally any big German tankses did bad in the end of the war
The biggest problems were allied fighter-bombers
And their logistical problems
still think the TDs were a waste of time but that probably reflects modern thinking
well, probably from 1950s onwards thinking
The Hetzer was not a waste of time.
since TDs disappeared pretty qucikly after WW2
The Hetzer was very cost-effective