i think we can say that eastern european migration is almost a benefit as they do the jobs native western europeans dont want to do

and they dont even have any troubles with it

what, the irish? Yeah, no problems. Irish need not apply was a myth

who is talking about irish?

OMG; LOL; the Warren stuff is worse than I thought. She tried immitating Scott Adams...

@DefinitlyNotInsane - NL same logics and stats where used against the Irish when they immigrated to america

what logic?

you mean what i said

some flow: here is an ethnicity, the stats show they cause crime and problems, therefore we prosecute the ethnicity.

rather than identify the problem attributes, and get rid of everyone causing problems.

when did i say we have to get rid of all of them

can you maybe explain yourself a bit better as i think we are on different wavelenghts here

perhaps we are, what is the point of "black people and mexicans are more likely to commit crime (which is prove)" comment in relation to "i then say i dont like living in a country with alot of criminals"

it is about being able to say the truth and not have any llabels be put on you

i want to have the ability to say which race commits the most crime and not be painted a racist

and apart from that i dont want to live in a country with alot of crime

then why lead with the comment?

why not

because, in human interaction, it links the two. Leading implies causation. which makes it intentional. Stating a fact doesn't make it the truth.

you can state a bunch of facts to create a lie

that is true but which facts did i combine to create a lie

tell me, what purpose is there to put these 2 comments next to each-other?

absolutely nothing else but to save me from pressing enter twice

except people don't usually say things for no reason

well i didnt say anything for no reason did i?

i posted two sentences together as a means to save milliseconds that doesnt mean that i didnt have a reason for posting it right

you don't want to be called a racist for putting those 2 together, yet i assume you must say those 2 things together a lot for this to be a problem. If you post a concern together with a random fact but don't elaborate, most humans try to fit them together. Our brains are pattern recognition engines. The most common pattern for such a combination is cause and effect. So what reason do you have for stating those 2 together without any other context for this to be so often a problem?

implication is usually the term related to this problem

it is also the reason legal talk is so ridiculous as to no longer be logical to most people.

yes but implication is nothing, its subjective (it might be the msot obvious thing in the world but it is still subjective) and we all know what happens whe we take peoples feelings into account, the topic before this one was something to do with freespeech and a guy talking about neonazi's or the alt right. If i say something like i dont want to live in a neighbourhood with crime and black people and hispanics commit more crime then most white people does that make me a racist? does stating a fact combined with something i would call a very reasonable opinion make me a racist?

thats why those two are together to get you to think about wether it is that bad to say and yes i know they get glued together when i put them in the same post but that makes it even better. because i didnt discriminate i didnt say anything racist i did absolutely nothing that would make me a racist and yet there are people in this world who will jump on a train to call me racist even though everyone in their right mind would agree unless you are some kingpin who knows nothing but to survive in an area filled with crime i would say you dont want to live in a neighbourhood with alot of crime, do you?

@Grenade123

except humans intentionally use implication to combined ideas using less words

much like putting them in the same post

So as i said, what is your reason for putting those two together. and i got. your reason was to make people think you are racist. Yet you get annoyed when people think you are racist when you want them to think you are racist?

i didnt get annoyed it is to prove a point

you are trying to find my underlying meaning and that i what i wanted

thats what i want to hear when i say something like that

not people calling me racist

rather than say it up front, you wanted to go around the long way and reach the same ends with more words.

i could always give you the answers but what is a conversation without thinking