Message from @Grenade123
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perhaps we are, what is the point of "black people and mexicans are more likely to commit crime (which is prove)" comment in relation to "i then say i dont like living in a country with alot of criminals"
it is about being able to say the truth and not have any llabels be put on you
i want to have the ability to say which race commits the most crime and not be painted a racist
and apart from that i dont want to live in a country with alot of crime
then why lead with the comment?
why not
because, in human interaction, it links the two. Leading implies causation. which makes it intentional. Stating a fact doesn't make it the truth.
you can state a bunch of facts to create a lie
that is true but which facts did i combine to create a lie
tell me, what purpose is there to put these 2 comments next to each-other?
absolutely nothing else but to save me from pressing enter twice
except people don't usually say things for no reason
well i didnt say anything for no reason did i?
i posted two sentences together as a means to save milliseconds that doesnt mean that i didnt have a reason for posting it right
you don't want to be called a racist for putting those 2 together, yet i assume you must say those 2 things together a lot for this to be a problem. If you post a concern together with a random fact but don't elaborate, most humans try to fit them together. Our brains are pattern recognition engines. The most common pattern for such a combination is cause and effect. So what reason do you have for stating those 2 together without any other context for this to be so often a problem?
implication is usually the term related to this problem
it is also the reason legal talk is so ridiculous as to no longer be logical to most people.
yes but implication is nothing, its subjective (it might be the msot obvious thing in the world but it is still subjective) and we all know what happens whe we take peoples feelings into account, the topic before this one was something to do with freespeech and a guy talking about neonazi's or the alt right. If i say something like i dont want to live in a neighbourhood with crime and black people and hispanics commit more crime then most white people does that make me a racist? does stating a fact combined with something i would call a very reasonable opinion make me a racist?
thats why those two are together to get you to think about wether it is that bad to say and yes i know they get glued together when i put them in the same post but that makes it even better. because i didnt discriminate i didnt say anything racist i did absolutely nothing that would make me a racist and yet there are people in this world who will jump on a train to call me racist even though everyone in their right mind would agree unless you are some kingpin who knows nothing but to survive in an area filled with crime i would say you dont want to live in a neighbourhood with alot of crime, do you?
much like putting them in the same post
So as i said, what is your reason for putting those two together. and i got. your reason was to make people think you are racist. Yet you get annoyed when people think you are racist when you want them to think you are racist?
i didnt get annoyed it is to prove a point
you are trying to find my underlying meaning and that i what i wanted
thats what i want to hear when i say something like that
not people calling me racist
rather than say it up front, you wanted to go around the long way and reach the same ends with more words.
i could always give you the answers but what is a conversation without thinking
except this conversation has gone nowhere
do you only have a problem getting called racist when combining these statements? or do you get it for citing blacks as committing more crime?
i can state alot but if i "attack" or trigger someone by saying something that can clearly be taken as racist then i well first of all know what type of person im dealing with after which i know how to approach you to get a conversation running, you can say what you want about this conversation but it sure as hell is still going, as far as getting called a racist, i think i implied it was a hypothetical question, if not im sorry for being unclear. i dont get called a racist but i also dont cite black crime rates. point is if i where to cite these crime rates together with my opinion of living in a low crime neighbourhood would that be enough reason for you (or in this case the person i first asked this of) to label me as a racist?
for most people yes until you elaborate. We fit patterns. We see 2 dots side by side on the same level with a line centered between the dots and slightly below that level we call it a face until we see more
or at least if at least in that orientation relative to all the parts.
The only valid human right is property rights. Anything else that contradicts property rights is not a valid right. @Yuukimaru
up or down can change
so you would call me a racist if i only said that black people or hispanics commit more crimes and i dont want to live in an area filled with crime?
depends on which side of the fence you come from. White nationalist would call it logic, others would call it racist, but the implication is the same to most.
well how about no implications
but its the same implication regardless of what you replace the fact with
just me saying that with absolutely no motive behind it