Message from @devpav

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2019-01-07 20:03:23 UTC  

shouldn't do winner takes all

2019-01-07 20:03:34 UTC  

as it devalues the individuals vote

2019-01-07 20:03:53 UTC  

and makes the election less representative of the nation

2019-01-07 20:03:59 UTC  

So they should put the electors on the ballot instead of the POTUS candidates?

2019-01-07 20:04:13 UTC  

thats an idea.

2019-01-07 20:04:18 UTC  

some places do that i think

2019-01-07 20:04:42 UTC  

but still, if there are no electors that would vote your way, what would that do?

2019-01-07 20:04:44 UTC  

I don't know how many states did that even in the early days of the US.

2019-01-07 20:05:38 UTC  

there is a bit of a problem i suppose in that electors are bound to vote for the winner of the popular vote or face fines, but they do so on an individual level

2019-01-07 20:05:42 UTC  

basically they should assign the electors based on the percentage of the popular vote inside of the state, not give the person with .5% more votes all of the electors.

2019-01-07 20:05:53 UTC  

I suppose you can write in an elector then.

2019-01-07 20:05:53 UTC  

meaning its not like they tell each elector "here is who you vote for"

2019-01-07 20:06:09 UTC  

which is what this would require changing

2019-01-07 20:06:21 UTC  

not really

2019-01-07 20:06:46 UTC  

yes, because how does each elector know who the other voted to make sure things get spread based off percent

2019-01-07 20:06:58 UTC  

each elector, as i understand it, is an individual

2019-01-07 20:07:02 UTC  

i like nebraska and maine's system

2019-01-07 20:07:06 UTC  

Winner-take-all makes perfect sense when the voters only get to vote for 1 President.

2019-01-07 20:07:09 UTC  

i don;t think they know who who the others vote for

2019-01-07 20:07:44 UTC  

@devpav as i demonstrated above, winner takes all can change the election drastically

2019-01-07 20:08:18 UTC  

Of course every election is sensitive to the specific rules of the election. You don't have to demonstrate that.

2019-01-07 20:08:44 UTC  

candidates give a list of 55 (or whatever the number of electors for the state is) people for the state that they want as electors, electors get in from top to bottom of that list according to the percentage of votes their candidate got. after that proceed the same way you do now.

2019-01-07 20:09:23 UTC  

I would *like* to see some big states adopt the nebraska system on their own.

2019-01-07 20:09:48 UTC  

florida would be so much less stressful

2019-01-07 20:11:16 UTC  

Yeah, Florida was literally incapable of choosing a President in 2000.

2019-01-07 20:12:12 UTC  

from what i can tell florida is literally incapable of counting

2019-01-07 20:12:33 UTC  

You mean counting correctly*

2019-01-07 20:12:39 UTC  

florida is gonna dissolve into the ocean, who cares

2019-01-07 20:12:47 UTC  

You just have to recount until you get the result you want

2019-01-07 20:12:51 UTC  

then it is accurate.

2019-01-07 20:12:58 UTC  

its just a giant alka seltzer

2019-01-07 20:13:04 UTC  

It really is bizarre how close and indecisive Florida elections are.

2019-01-07 20:13:10 UTC  

It isnt

2019-01-07 20:13:22 UTC  

The south has more cities, the north has more rural.

2019-01-07 20:13:49 UTC  

Heh, apparently Broward County will recount until it likes the result.

2019-01-07 20:13:52 UTC  

The elderly also help offset the heavy city infulence.

2019-01-07 20:14:06 UTC  

Since older tends to vote more conservative.

2019-01-07 20:15:17 UTC  

"s bizarre how close and indecisive Florida elections"

3 words:

Orlando, Miami, Tampa

2019-01-07 20:15:34 UTC  

4 really:

Orlando, Miami, Tampa, Swampland

2019-01-07 20:34:05 UTC  

Better than the Soviet socialist republic of California

2019-01-07 21:02:46 UTC  

The Socialist Republic of Seattle is pretty bad in that reguard too