Message from @Grenade123
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and yes, the presidential election is winner takes all. my point is that the winner takes all part comes too early.
No state is required to have a winner-take-all election for its electors. Most do simply because the electoral vote is pro forma after the popular vote for the POTUS candidates themselves.
yes
and the argument is they shouldn't
not that they can't
Shouldn't what?
shouldn't do winner takes all
as it devalues the individuals vote
and makes the election less representative of the nation
So they should put the electors on the ballot instead of the POTUS candidates?
thats an idea.
some places do that i think
but still, if there are no electors that would vote your way, what would that do?
I don't know how many states did that even in the early days of the US.
there is a bit of a problem i suppose in that electors are bound to vote for the winner of the popular vote or face fines, but they do so on an individual level
basically they should assign the electors based on the percentage of the popular vote inside of the state, not give the person with .5% more votes all of the electors.
I suppose you can write in an elector then.
meaning its not like they tell each elector "here is who you vote for"
which is what this would require changing
not really
yes, because how does each elector know who the other voted to make sure things get spread based off percent
each elector, as i understand it, is an individual
i like nebraska and maine's system
Winner-take-all makes perfect sense when the voters only get to vote for 1 President.
i don;t think they know who who the others vote for
@devpav as i demonstrated above, winner takes all can change the election drastically
Of course every election is sensitive to the specific rules of the election. You don't have to demonstrate that.
candidates give a list of 55 (or whatever the number of electors for the state is) people for the state that they want as electors, electors get in from top to bottom of that list according to the percentage of votes their candidate got. after that proceed the same way you do now.
I would *like* to see some big states adopt the nebraska system on their own.
florida would be so much less stressful
Yeah, Florida was literally incapable of choosing a President in 2000.
from what i can tell florida is literally incapable of counting
You mean counting correctly*
florida is gonna dissolve into the ocean, who cares
You just have to recount until you get the result you want
then it is accurate.
its just a giant alka seltzer
It really is bizarre how close and indecisive Florida elections are.
It isnt
The south has more cities, the north has more rural.
Heh, apparently Broward County will recount until it likes the result.