Message from @Blackhawk342

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2019-02-04 23:23:29 UTC  

Japanese corporate culture is a bit different. I don’t think US business culture is the only way to look at things.

2019-02-04 23:23:35 UTC  

and did their workers see an increase in pay following his cut?

2019-02-04 23:25:28 UTC  

Not sure. Either that or company expenses. In either case it should not be looked down upon if CEOs cut their own profits.

2019-02-04 23:26:22 UTC  

There is no real negative effects to the business simply because that money wasn’t going to the business in the first place. It was going to the individual

2019-02-04 23:26:49 UTC  

Does that mean you expect executives to take paycuts across the board before redirecting funds to lower level employees?

2019-02-04 23:26:59 UTC  

Jesse is really great sometimes:
https://youtu.be/APm-egYzaUU

2019-02-04 23:27:20 UTC  

What? No, not every executive.

2019-02-04 23:28:08 UTC  

You appear to be viewing my proposal through the lenses of “anti-socialist” propaganda.

2019-02-04 23:28:54 UTC  

The concept of seeing people as family rather than resources would be a cultural additude. Pay cutting is just one avenue

2019-02-04 23:29:18 UTC  

As of 2016 that is the current corporate culture

2019-02-04 23:29:34 UTC  

or at least its what they teach in management classes

2019-02-04 23:30:10 UTC  

The current culture is to maximize profits for the owners.

2019-02-04 23:30:47 UTC  

Yes, the two are supposed to be balanced with each other

2019-02-04 23:30:56 UTC  

Japan is to have their business last as long as possible. A few business conglomerates see business as family

2019-02-04 23:31:25 UTC  

I think the third is the ideal approach to build policy and culture around

2019-02-04 23:31:44 UTC  

They have massive conglomerates which work people to the bone

2019-02-04 23:31:58 UTC  

People kill themselves over work stress, not all at once but overtime

2019-02-04 23:32:21 UTC  

They dont have families and the government currently gives out massive benefits to anyone who has a child

2019-02-04 23:32:28 UTC  

Who’s “they?”

2019-02-04 23:32:37 UTC  

Japan?

2019-02-04 23:32:37 UTC  

the japanese

2019-02-04 23:33:09 UTC  

This is true. Asians are very fixated on the concept of status

2019-02-04 23:33:10 UTC  

If youd like to see something achieved like better quality of life for workers japan should be an example of what not to do

2019-02-04 23:33:31 UTC  

Working like crazy is part of that

2019-02-04 23:34:13 UTC  

People would be more productive but also more stressed which goes against the needs of the individual

2019-02-04 23:34:28 UTC  

The CEOs can publicly flog themselves, but it wont fix the fact that they reward over-working and the prioritization of work over social life to the point where the former erases the later

2019-02-04 23:35:13 UTC  

A family based approach maintains the needs and respects the time of the individual.

2019-02-04 23:36:08 UTC  

Dont you see thats the problem?

2019-02-04 23:36:13 UTC  

You can only have one family

2019-02-04 23:36:24 UTC  

If work becomes that family you have no need for one outside of it

2019-02-04 23:36:34 UTC  

If an average CEO cut his pay in HALF and paid it out to his workers I would suspect that most would see less that a $10 annual raise.... So where is the benifit?

2019-02-04 23:37:16 UTC  

It wouldn’t necessarily have to be distributed like that

2019-02-04 23:37:22 UTC  

Ok, then how?

2019-02-04 23:37:42 UTC  

Becasue that income represents a HUGE investment on behalf of the CEO

2019-02-04 23:37:51 UTC  

and would equal basically nothing to his workers

2019-02-04 23:37:54 UTC  

(or hers)

2019-02-04 23:37:55 UTC  

:p

2019-02-04 23:38:33 UTC  

If Elon Musk were to give away 20 billion he would atill have 2 billion. Tesla/SpaceX has 50,0000 people so each employee (assuming even distribution) would get $400,000 each

2019-02-04 23:38:51 UTC  

lol

2019-02-04 23:38:56 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509549100061163520/542126946998288384/dcquvqg-0881dd40-fd76-418c-a522-66a439c287ea.png

2019-02-04 23:38:57 UTC  

most of that exists in the form of stock options