Message from @Maddy_Zabbara

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2019-02-04 23:31:58 UTC  

People kill themselves over work stress, not all at once but overtime

2019-02-04 23:32:21 UTC  

They dont have families and the government currently gives out massive benefits to anyone who has a child

2019-02-04 23:32:28 UTC  

Who’s “they?”

2019-02-04 23:32:37 UTC  

Japan?

2019-02-04 23:32:37 UTC  

the japanese

2019-02-04 23:33:09 UTC  

This is true. Asians are very fixated on the concept of status

2019-02-04 23:33:10 UTC  

If youd like to see something achieved like better quality of life for workers japan should be an example of what not to do

2019-02-04 23:33:31 UTC  

Working like crazy is part of that

2019-02-04 23:34:13 UTC  

People would be more productive but also more stressed which goes against the needs of the individual

2019-02-04 23:34:28 UTC  

The CEOs can publicly flog themselves, but it wont fix the fact that they reward over-working and the prioritization of work over social life to the point where the former erases the later

2019-02-04 23:35:13 UTC  

A family based approach maintains the needs and respects the time of the individual.

2019-02-04 23:36:08 UTC  

Dont you see thats the problem?

2019-02-04 23:36:13 UTC  

You can only have one family

2019-02-04 23:36:24 UTC  

If work becomes that family you have no need for one outside of it

2019-02-04 23:36:34 UTC  

If an average CEO cut his pay in HALF and paid it out to his workers I would suspect that most would see less that a $10 annual raise.... So where is the benifit?

2019-02-04 23:37:16 UTC  

It wouldn’t necessarily have to be distributed like that

2019-02-04 23:37:22 UTC  

Ok, then how?

2019-02-04 23:37:42 UTC  

Becasue that income represents a HUGE investment on behalf of the CEO

2019-02-04 23:37:51 UTC  

and would equal basically nothing to his workers

2019-02-04 23:37:54 UTC  

(or hers)

2019-02-04 23:37:55 UTC  

:p

2019-02-04 23:38:33 UTC  

If Elon Musk were to give away 20 billion he would atill have 2 billion. Tesla/SpaceX has 50,0000 people so each employee (assuming even distribution) would get $400,000 each

2019-02-04 23:38:51 UTC  

lol

2019-02-04 23:38:56 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509549100061163520/542126946998288384/dcquvqg-0881dd40-fd76-418c-a522-66a439c287ea.png

2019-02-04 23:38:57 UTC  

most of that exists in the form of stock options

2019-02-04 23:39:07 UTC  

Which are valued at current market price

2019-02-04 23:40:21 UTC  

The fact he was able to buy that much to begin with is a concern

2019-02-04 23:40:29 UTC  

what?

2019-02-04 23:40:50 UTC  

If he had 2 Billion he would not be investing in things like civillian space travel and electric cars... So which is better for the world?

2019-02-04 23:40:52 UTC  

he created those companies, he gave away large portions of the stock

2019-02-04 23:41:08 UTC  

"gave away" = SOLD

2019-02-04 23:41:09 UTC  

to investors and via public trading

2019-02-04 23:41:32 UTC  

So to start with this stock was worthless, but then he made it worth something and now he should give it up

2019-02-04 23:42:14 UTC  

He put in MASSIVE amounts of work that frankly next to no one else would/could do. and nopw you want to punish him for it? that is patently insane. You want to promote MORE people wo do that kind of work

2019-02-04 23:42:20 UTC  

Not punish everyone who does

2019-02-04 23:42:29 UTC  

Bu-but its not communism tho

2019-02-04 23:42:32 UTC  

just remember that

2019-02-04 23:42:32 UTC  

I don’t think you guys can fathom how much $1 billion actually is

2019-02-04 23:42:43 UTC  

I really can....

2019-02-04 23:42:48 UTC  

Ah yes the "more money than they need" arguement

2019-02-04 23:42:58 UTC  

And You need to understand that it's not yours. THe person with that money earned it