i never said it was on the same level though

i simply said their rhetoric is similar in stupidity and anger

sexism is kind of an overused word though

and means many things

So what would you consider a non-sexist belief about men and women?

and there is evidence that traditional gender roles leads to more happiness in relationships and in life

I will critize the people wanting the maga kids to die the same I will critize Christians that want to send gays to re-education camps

how is a re-eduction camp as bad as wanting kids to die SMH

I don't care they have not done either of those. They have expressed a desire to do so, and I will tell them that's bad.

this is insane

Traditionalism isn't misogynistic by its own terms, that's a feminist interpretation of well-defined gender roles.

@devpav I agree

Because I see torture and death as both bad enough to cross a threshold?

I'm not gonna say torture is fine just because death is worse.

re-education camps for gay kids can cause real trauma and suicidal thoughts

i would most certainly consider it as bad as wanting kids to die

This kind of give and take bullshit is what they do with gunlaws

"it's not a gun ban, how could you think that"

The social pressure to adopt transgenderism causes real trauma and suicidal thoughts.

also i do understand that traditional gender roles statistically lead to happier people but i still think *enforcing* them and making people conform to them is extremely shitty and sexist

Any experience that is abusive can cause trauma and suicidal thoughts. And most experiences can be done in a way that is not abusive

@devpav thats true as well

yeah well re-education camps are definitely abusive by their basic concept

you can be as nice as you want to the kids but at the end of the day youre trying to convince them that their way of love is wrong and bad and they need to be like everyone else

@Pendell What you're talking about is a political belief

what

You believe that homosexuality is something people are born with in spite of evidence that people can change their sexual preferences. and therefore your conclusion is that asking someone to change is an abuse

When it's cutting off the clit of a young girl it's horrible, but chopping off the end of an infants dick it's fine. And you have a problem with me saying gentital mutilation without consent is not okay because I'm now treating those as "equal"?

people can change their sexual preference, but not willingly

Then what does bisexual mean?

you cant *force* someone to change their sexual preference

bisexual is a sexual preference for both, or just lack of preference

it's also worth nothing most bisexual people note going through phases of shifting preference
**which are entirely out of their control**

Some christians volunteer to attend workshops to get over their gay urges

And people on the left hate this

thats their life choices

That's not being forced in this situation

good for them

The permanency of sexual orientation is an LGBT dogma created to prevent gays from leaving the LGBT political plantation.

"asking someone to change it is abuse"

Asking? No. Forcing? Yes.

im talking about the people who *are* forced