how is it fascistic to be critical of someone's beliefs just because they dont take action on them

that means i cant criticize any of the twitter communists uwu

because the expectation is that in an ideal world, people will think what you want them to think. that's your basis for how you measure progress. and I think that in an ideal world, people will refrain from actions that hurt other people

thats reasonable to only want to curtail the harm

i never said that was my basis for how i measure progress

i agree with you

well the way you spoke about it, gives that impression. because you're saying left and right are similar problems

your assuming things about me just because im criticizing evangelical nuts on facebook

far left and far right have similar beliefs
they have different roots and may result in different actions, but on a basic level youll find they agree on a lot of things

give an example

of what they agree on

they believe sexism is virtuous and right

So it's fascistic to want to debate someone on their beliefs? So making everyone stay silent and not speak out against an idea until it has already oppressed you is fine.

i think you're oversimplifying the definition of sexism

the far left thinks being sexist to men is right and virtuous because muh patriarchy and equality
the far right - evangelical at least - thinks sexism is right and virtuous because muh poorly translated several thousand year old scriptures

"how dare you talk bad about the state! It hasn't done anything to you? Now off to jail. NOW you can speak out."

@Grenade123 There's a difference between wanting to debate someone's beliefs and thinking that somebody simply believing something different is on the same level as someone who wants to riot and shut down the economic system

I never said there was something wrong with debate

i never said it was on the same level though

i simply said their rhetoric is similar in stupidity and anger

sexism is kind of an overused word though

and means many things

So what would you consider a non-sexist belief about men and women?

and there is evidence that traditional gender roles leads to more happiness in relationships and in life

I will critize the people wanting the maga kids to die the same I will critize Christians that want to send gays to re-education camps

how is a re-eduction camp as bad as wanting kids to die SMH

I don't care they have not done either of those. They have expressed a desire to do so, and I will tell them that's bad.

this is insane

Traditionalism isn't misogynistic by its own terms, that's a feminist interpretation of well-defined gender roles.

@devpav I agree

Because I see torture and death as both bad enough to cross a threshold?

I'm not gonna say torture is fine just because death is worse.

re-education camps for gay kids can cause real trauma and suicidal thoughts

i would most certainly consider it as bad as wanting kids to die

This kind of give and take bullshit is what they do with gunlaws

"it's not a gun ban, how could you think that"

The social pressure to adopt transgenderism causes real trauma and suicidal thoughts.

also i do understand that traditional gender roles statistically lead to happier people but i still think *enforcing* them and making people conform to them is extremely shitty and sexist

Any experience that is abusive can cause trauma and suicidal thoughts. And most experiences can be done in a way that is not abusive

@devpav thats true as well

yeah well re-education camps are definitely abusive by their basic concept