Message from @CreativeRealms

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2018-07-03 13:27:59 UTC  

I am all for the automation of labour.

2018-07-03 13:28:17 UTC  

Doesn't sound like they have a plan for pulling that off, though...

2018-07-03 13:29:30 UTC  

You'd have to genocide some of the population to pull that off without skyrocketing unemployment

2018-07-03 13:31:59 UTC  

That may not be off the cards for them, i would hazard a guess..

2018-07-03 13:59:11 UTC  

automation debate in <#463068752725016579>

2018-07-03 13:59:52 UTC  

well there was one yesterday

2018-07-03 13:59:57 UTC  

anyway

2018-07-03 14:00:26 UTC  

senpai

2018-07-03 14:02:33 UTC  

@Timcast so a youtube comment made me realize that white SJWs are using the same logic that justified imperialism. A modern white man's burden. That it is their duty to look after people who are not white. Just like it was the duty of the western world to civilize the third world and lift them up.

2018-07-03 14:02:54 UTC  

white savior complex

2018-07-03 14:07:37 UTC  

@Timcast I have heard your opinion the the gay cake debate but i would like to know what you think of my opinion on it and whether you agree.

While denying service because someone is gay should not be accepted but not creating a gay cake should be accepted.

I come to this opinion as at the end of the day what is being denied is not service but the product and people can either take their business to another shop or just buy a cake and ad to male figures to it.

2018-07-03 14:08:06 UTC  

thats a good point

2018-07-03 14:08:15 UTC  

you cant tell them what they can put on the cake

2018-07-03 14:08:30 UTC  

they can make you a cake and make it however they want

2018-07-03 14:08:42 UTC  

I kept saying this. The baker was willing to sell them any cake in the shop but was not going to create a custom one.

2018-07-03 14:09:00 UTC  

Didn't kick them out for being gay.

2018-07-03 14:09:00 UTC  

no i mean they should make a custom one

2018-07-03 14:09:05 UTC  

but you cant tell them how its made

2018-07-03 14:09:17 UTC  

so ok ill go bake you a cake as I see fit

2018-07-03 14:09:17 UTC  

They should but shouldn't be forced.

2018-07-03 14:09:49 UTC  

It's like demanding that a painter paints something for you even if they don't want to.

2018-07-03 14:10:00 UTC  

Or any kind of artist.

2018-07-03 14:10:42 UTC  

I see a huge difference between demanding something that needs to be made and demanding something that is already made.

2018-07-03 14:11:08 UTC  

in short
denial of a customer is wrong
But
denial of a product is ok

2018-07-03 14:11:19 UTC  

If something is made you shouldn't deny it to anyone but if someone is trying to force you to make something they shouldn't be able to.

2018-07-03 14:11:32 UTC  

isint it kinda like telling an artist what they have to draw for you before you give them money and them not being able to deny you? its called culanry arts. its not like they are selling something made at a factory they are refusing to be your middleman to

2018-07-03 14:11:42 UTC  

Just tell the gays to go to a different bakery lol

2018-07-03 14:12:02 UTC  

It's not that complicated

2018-07-03 14:12:12 UTC  

but muh tribalism

2018-07-03 14:12:14 UTC  

problem comes when everyone denies them

2018-07-03 14:12:25 UTC  

But everyone isn't though

2018-07-03 14:12:46 UTC  

Banning gays from your establishment is basically suicide for your business

2018-07-03 14:13:25 UTC  

sure the gov may not being doing something with a poorly written law
but what about next week

2018-07-03 14:13:42 UTC  

i think people are to afraid of civil wars, the preventitive tactics of an authoritarian government does not prevent people within their society from wanting to disassociate with eachother, all it does is force people who dont want to cooperate to cooperate against their will

2018-07-03 14:14:12 UTC  

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2018-07-03 14:14:24 UTC  

the edge is real

2018-07-03 14:14:33 UTC  

maybe over generations it can change minds, but not if their is a legitament reason for them not to want to associate with eachother

2018-07-03 14:15:55 UTC  

Do you guys agree

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2018-07-03 14:16:29 UTC  

in some cases

2018-07-03 14:16:48 UTC  

that doesent discribe every policy of socialism but for the ones it does i agree

2018-07-03 14:17:21 UTC  

@Timcast Possible project? I saw this guy’s video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px_V_oKyzU8&t=146s

And it occurred to me, that his “drive the length of the border” project might make for an interesting “in the field” piece of reporting work for you and Emily, and a good cross-channel collaboration. Since you’re politically agnostic, he might be willing to work with you, and between the two of you, the combined expertise and audience might make for a very popular and timely series on youtube.

Just a thought