Message from @zutt
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Oh hang on
I think we might be referring to different organizations
The American and British DSAs are a bit different
I linked american dsa
Britain is bigger mess
Yeah that's why I was confused once you mentioned parliament
Ah
I meant 1st chamber
Anyway rather then left right spectrum i am interested where she is on authoritarian libertarian spectrum
I know she is for decriminalisation of weed
But also was speaking about female discrimination
So its hard for me to decide where she belongs
in the kitchen! 😉
😏
He read documentation from the website describing *the plan*
If Ocasio Cortez wasn't in favour of it, why would she associate with it
That part sounded more like misinterpretation to me i guess i would need more information
There are two naratives emerging
One is that they want ro make Scandinavian model gov
Other they want to go full Venezuela
As i said problem is they call themselves same name and dont dissociate themselves from hardline positions
He addresses that last part
Basically saying "if you refuse to draw the distinction between your group and the radical group, why should I?"
She will have to eventualy
And it will cause infighting
Is my prediction
Like i fully agree that having ppl with vide variety of positions within single movement is retarded because it makes it hard to defie
Not making a distiction between democratic socialism and social democracy is so common and it pisses me off
All i am saying is i think she isnt fringe left socialist
She wants to abolish ICE
Yes but that poaition is also more explained
She basically wants to move it under different department if i understood it right
To have it better overseen
But again there are members within her movement who want to hatdcore have no borders
So it makes it hard to decide what her exact policy supposedly is
I've not seen anything like that
All I've seen is that they want to completely dismantle it and then create a commission
But the goals are nebulous
And meanwhile immigration will continue unchecked
So I'd still call it a pretty extreme position
She also misrepresented the org according to this http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/06/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-misrepresents-ices-detent/ though I don't have time to go through all the sources at the moment