Message from @zutt

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2018-07-11 17:53:39 UTC  

But yeah this naming chaos is not helping

2018-07-11 17:53:52 UTC  

So I can't really speak to their motives and agenda

2018-07-11 17:54:00 UTC  

When you have members spouting different policies

2018-07-11 17:54:10 UTC  

Yeah

2018-07-11 17:55:28 UTC  

I think the other thing is their numbers

2018-07-11 17:55:49 UTC  

They would behave differently if they got majority in parliament

2018-07-11 17:56:32 UTC  

But back to my complaint

2018-07-11 17:57:09 UTC  

I think calling them all hardcore socialist is like calling all right wing nazis

2018-07-11 17:57:28 UTC  

I think we need to take care to avoid that

2018-07-11 18:00:11 UTC  

I think i would call her left wing populist

2018-07-11 18:00:23 UTC  

Oh hang on

2018-07-11 18:00:35 UTC  

I think we might be referring to different organizations

2018-07-11 18:01:14 UTC  

The American and British DSAs are a bit different

2018-07-11 18:01:26 UTC  

I linked american dsa

2018-07-11 18:01:39 UTC  

Britain is bigger mess

2018-07-11 18:01:45 UTC  

Yeah that's why I was confused once you mentioned parliament

2018-07-11 18:01:48 UTC  

Ah

2018-07-11 18:02:04 UTC  

I meant 1st chamber

2018-07-11 18:03:08 UTC  

Anyway rather then left right spectrum i am interested where she is on authoritarian libertarian spectrum

2018-07-11 18:03:34 UTC  

I know she is for decriminalisation of weed

2018-07-11 18:04:05 UTC  

But also was speaking about female discrimination

2018-07-11 18:04:32 UTC  

So its hard for me to decide where she belongs

2018-07-11 18:04:41 UTC  

in the kitchen! 😉

2018-07-11 18:04:46 UTC  

😏

2018-07-11 18:12:51 UTC  

He read documentation from the website describing *the plan*

2018-07-11 18:13:07 UTC  

If Ocasio Cortez wasn't in favour of it, why would she associate with it

2018-07-11 18:21:37 UTC  

That part sounded more like misinterpretation to me i guess i would need more information

2018-07-11 18:21:57 UTC  

There are two naratives emerging

2018-07-11 18:22:17 UTC  

One is that they want ro make Scandinavian model gov

2018-07-11 18:22:35 UTC  

Other they want to go full Venezuela

2018-07-11 18:23:52 UTC  

As i said problem is they call themselves same name and dont dissociate themselves from hardline positions

2018-07-11 18:24:11 UTC  

He addresses that last part

2018-07-11 18:24:46 UTC  

Basically saying "if you refuse to draw the distinction between your group and the radical group, why should I?"

2018-07-11 18:25:48 UTC  

She will have to eventualy

2018-07-11 18:25:56 UTC  

And it will cause infighting

2018-07-11 18:26:01 UTC  

Is my prediction

2018-07-11 18:27:28 UTC  

Like i fully agree that having ppl with vide variety of positions within single movement is retarded because it makes it hard to defie

2018-07-11 18:27:41 UTC  

Not making a distiction between democratic socialism and social democracy is so common and it pisses me off

2018-07-11 18:28:08 UTC  

All i am saying is i think she isnt fringe left socialist

2018-07-11 18:28:20 UTC  

She wants to abolish ICE

2018-07-11 18:28:40 UTC  

Yes but that poaition is also more explained