Message from @Dennafen

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2018-07-14 16:02:02 UTC  

I have no opinion.

2018-07-14 16:02:30 UTC  

What would you call an agnostic that specifically rejects modern world religions?

2018-07-14 16:02:39 UTC  

a pussy

2018-07-14 16:02:49 UTC  

Atheisms is "I don't believe that there is a god." vs "I don't know if there's a god"

2018-07-14 16:02:53 UTC  

Say that to my mask.

2018-07-14 16:03:00 UTC  

your mask is a pussy!

2018-07-14 16:03:05 UTC  

😉

2018-07-14 16:03:46 UTC  

it doesnt mean you reject it - just means you wont go purely on beleif

2018-07-14 16:03:48 UTC  

Atheists is "I don't believe there is a God", agnostic is "I do not believe you can even know if there is a God or not"

2018-07-14 16:03:56 UTC  

Basically, My general belief is "I don't know if there is a god, but it's not that god over there, that's for damn sure."

2018-07-14 16:03:56 UTC  

They answer two different questions

2018-07-14 16:04:06 UTC  

Atheism means you reject it,

If you don't know cuz you don't believe, you're agnostic

2018-07-14 16:04:14 UTC  

Atheism is actively saying "theres no proof, so i dont think there is one"

2018-07-14 16:04:24 UTC  

No.

2018-07-14 16:04:27 UTC  

One is if they exist, the other is if that can be known for sure

2018-07-14 16:04:39 UTC  

its just "I dont have proof" ... and stops there

2018-07-14 16:05:13 UTC  

and that you thus don't believe there is one

If you have no proof but still believe there is one, you're just an average theist

2018-07-14 16:05:20 UTC  

You can simply not believe in any god, and be an atheist.

2018-07-14 16:05:29 UTC  

to say "there is absolutely no god" means you beleive that to be true... therefore you cannot be without belief

2018-07-14 16:05:41 UTC  

Anyone here agree with the term/concept Anti-theist?

2018-07-14 16:05:49 UTC  

Yes

2018-07-14 16:05:52 UTC  

and if you don't believe that,

Then you don't know, hence you are categorised as Agnostic

2018-07-14 16:05:54 UTC  

without beleif means you dont believe either way

2018-07-14 16:06:01 UTC  

I would say I'm an Anti-theist.

2018-07-14 16:06:03 UTC  

its more like you dont really care

2018-07-14 16:06:27 UTC  

Not caring is Atheistic yes.

2018-07-14 16:06:33 UTC  

Anti-theist, in my understanding, would mean you believe in the abolishment of theism.

2018-07-14 16:06:54 UTC  

You can believe in God and believe that the proof of his existance is beyond human understanding.

2018-07-14 16:06:55 UTC  

Nihilist are atheistic as well.

2018-07-14 16:06:59 UTC  

Generally.

2018-07-14 16:07:03 UTC  

Anti-theist according to Christopher Hitchens, the rejection of god, AND that you wish there isn't one even if there actually is one

2018-07-14 16:07:03 UTC  

Aka "you just believe"

2018-07-14 16:07:05 UTC  

Let's break down etymology here...

2018-07-14 16:07:25 UTC  

A~theism is 'Without Theism' or Without theology.

2018-07-14 16:07:28 UTC  

@RyeNorth Correct I think that belief in god is a negative in the world.

2018-07-14 16:07:40 UTC  

yeah I would say theres
theist: 100% believe its real
Anti-theist = 100% believe its false
Atheist - 100% dont care either way

2018-07-14 16:07:55 UTC  

that last one is Agnostic

2018-07-14 16:08:12 UTC  

Anti-theist are a sub category of Atheists.

2018-07-14 16:08:13 UTC  

A~gnostic means 'Without Knowledge'

2018-07-14 16:08:18 UTC  

or rather 100% dont beleive either .. because you are "without belief"

2018-07-14 16:08:43 UTC  

@Dr.Wol No agnostic means they don't know, or are unsure of it.