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I dont get the question Beeman

and yes Beeman

because someone still has to raise that damn thing

Abortions are had because the child isnt wanted, how do test tube babies change that?

It's only a problem if having non test tube babies is banned or something

or they end up like Smugglypuff

Yes

You can put a child up for adoption regardless, @Dr.Wol

Unless genetic modification fixes that

Also abortion helps prevent overpopulation

yes, and condemn them to an unknown faith

Is that a basis for death now? Lol

depends

some people foster just for the money, and do very little parenting

There are adoption agencies being investigated for sex slavery here

so you'd condemn a child to misery

just because you were too shitty to make a choice

Oh if we're talking about foster care getting proper purged I am all for that

US and Canada have a lot of abusive fucks in foster care

yeeeeeeeeah i mean raising a child is hard

exactly

I wouldn't want to condemn a child to that

but so were u when u came in ur partner

so thats that

But, there's a severe difference between "someone has suffered" even to the extreme, and "someone has ceased to exist"

There is no basis for improving the latter

It's not a good idea to outlaw abortion, man

It won't work

It's more like

if you cannot percieve yourself

do you even exist?

Suffered vs Never existed?

But wouldn't it be ideal for money to go to early prevention education rather than straight to the abortion part? If you prevent pregnancy early on the whole morality argument isn't relevant.

You will add a child to the welfare systen

It's inaccurate to say never existed

i'd take never existed over suffering

Otherwise, i'd be okay with North Korea

And result in widespread health problems

It's like snuffing out the spark before the flame gets going.

Meh

its the old does a tree make a sound if it falls and noones aroudn to hear it majjigger