Message from MEE6 in Subverse #general

2018-07-21 00:41:29 UTC  

You really don't consider a difference between someone being told "you should do this" and being shamed for not doing so and someone being violently attacked for not doing so?

2018-07-21 00:41:41 UTC  

That's the thing, it's culturally enforced by other members of the community

2018-07-21 00:42:15 UTC  

It's why women from theocracies like iran are ripping off their burkhas

2018-07-21 00:42:19 UTC  

this is a circular argument if you can't agree on the venue, is this denmark, the US, or the middle east?

2018-07-21 00:42:24 UTC  


2018-07-21 00:42:29 UTC  

You're acting as though it's the same in every case. In some cases you get killed, and in others you're just shamed.

2018-07-21 00:42:34 UTC  

Middle East it's legally enforced

2018-07-21 00:42:51 UTC  

Only for muslim women though

2018-07-21 00:42:53 UTC  

Of course it’s not the same.

2018-07-21 00:43:00 UTC  

It's not common for shit like that to happen in the US, but they're still pressured to wear hijab here. That's not the same as someone being killed.

2018-07-21 00:43:05 UTC  

Others are just given dirty looks by the police men

2018-07-21 00:43:24 UTC  

honor killings happen in the US

2018-07-21 00:43:34 UTC  

Trying to say that 'they're both being pressured though' is silly.

2018-07-21 00:43:35 UTC  

They happen everywhere what's your point

2018-07-21 00:43:47 UTC  
2018-07-21 00:43:57 UTC  

I said it's not *common* in the US.

2018-07-21 00:44:11 UTC  

more common than i care for

2018-07-21 00:44:12 UTC  

My point is that your claim that 'they're both being pressured, so it's just as bad' is absurd

2018-07-21 00:44:22 UTC  


2018-07-21 00:44:22 UTC  

then again, 1 honor killing is more common than i care for

2018-07-21 00:44:55 UTC  

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2018-07-21 00:45:44 UTC  

It's why I said if you want to make sure the women are choosing to wear them, you need to bam muslims

2018-07-21 00:46:03 UTC  

Banning the hijab makes more sense

2018-07-21 00:47:26 UTC  

It's also oppressive to those who are actually making the choice entirely on their own.

2018-07-21 00:47:34 UTC  

How do you know.

2018-07-21 00:48:16 UTC  

What do you even mean how do I know? I know because you're telling someone they're not allowed to make their own choices.

2018-07-21 00:48:21 UTC  

I challenge you, go into a muslim community, find me one person who says she's being pressured into it.

2018-07-21 00:48:46 UTC  

That has nothing to do with the simple fact that you're trying to control people.

2018-07-21 00:49:02 UTC  

I don't care if it's being oppressive to a negligible minority. It's being used for far worse purposes

2018-07-21 00:49:34 UTC  

And, you can wear a chador

2018-07-21 00:49:50 UTC  

I don't like that aspect of the culture any more than you do, but I'm not willing to give up my own, and everyone else's freedom for promises that people will be treated nicer.

2018-07-21 00:50:15 UTC  

You were saying hijab.

2018-07-21 00:50:21 UTC  

Chador is hijab.

2018-07-21 01:22:25 UTC  

In Germany a ban on masks also applies to facial curtains

2018-07-21 01:22:45 UTC  

You have to have an ID-able face in public

2018-07-21 01:30:31 UTC  

@Deleted User but but wearing a hijab is a choice REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe

2018-07-21 01:33:59 UTC  

Wear it at home

2018-07-21 01:34:23 UTC  

Covering hair in public is fine though

2018-07-21 01:40:03 UTC  

@Schedrevka Chador isn't hijab you cuck

2018-07-21 01:40:17 UTC  

It covers your head, leaves your face