Or cutting the tax you have to pay to SS?

Let's say that $35k is deemed subsistence income, and that you have a labor income of $25k. You would receive monthly tax credits totaling $10k.

Rather negative income would probably take for SS then givre you money from a different pool

SS is a different beast.

It shouldn't exist.

Ponzi scheme.

so subsidiaries?

Subsidies?

yes

I guess.

English not my 1st Language 😛

Is Federal government funding this?

Ideally this would be state level.

But I don't know if that would work.

Subsidies don't work, the netherlands have them,

The people become convinced they're entitled to the money, as a bonus

And then complain their regular income is too low, completely forgetting they're getting extra money already

I don't know if any of this would work.

Do you offer this to people who choose to live in expensive areas?

The subsistence level wouldn't really permit them to survive there, but sure.

This isn't meant to insulate people from bad decisions.

I don't know if this would work, but I think it would be a better solution than UBI or the free market forcing a return to feudalism.

free market wouldn't create feudalism

There's nothing about a free market that requires a middle class.

Well if they would be able to comfortably live somewhere cheaper at 25k what's to stop them from spending an extra 10k just to have a more expesive lifestyle, ie. Living in the city

you generate the middle class, by having more work than workers

The work is automated.

so companies are forced to pay more for the better people

There isn't more work than workers.

hence my two solutions,

Space colonisation

Warfare

You either find them a new place to work labor-ish

Or you have them kill each other

"Space colonization" isn't a solution. It's magic as far as this conversation is concerned.

"A wizard did it" basically.

you know, i had that argument used against me when places like Patreon started

and youtube monetization

"No one will pay for that"

How's that doing these days.

ask Tim, he seems to be holding on well enough

"well enough" in that he's not starving. I don't think Tim is thriving.

How much travel is the guy doing these days?

How much is there to travel TO these days?

Tim already said he wont go to extremist rallies, only to neutral ones

or Sargon, he's not going anywhere, and earning enough