No i wouldn't consider myself an artist no

so i think you dont have a place to say

I make art, but i don't consider my work good enough to call myself an Artist

that sounds like self deprecation

self criticism

smells like appeal to authority fallacy to me

I work in an art-related field but I don't consider myself an artist. Clients tell me to make specific things and I get paid to do it, so more of a craftsman than anything.

there are no official qualifications to become an 'artist' that is the beauty of art

I'm not the one coming up with the ideas, just executing it

i just think its weird you are holding artists on some pedestal

cooking is an art

but I don't really have an issue with people calling anything art, my problem is mainly with those who will call one thing art and not another even though it's basically the same thing

I consider someone an artist, if the layman can't remake it

art isn't some magical unattainable thing only meant for a few

art itself is for the masses to enjoy,

"being an artist" is for the few

yes thats what i meant 'being an artist'

doesn't have to be some rare city of gold only for the few

imo

being a *good* artist is another story

art does not equal quality

and has nothing to do with the definition

well thats our difference then,

I consider "good artists" to just be artists, and people who arent "good artists", not to be artists

Its a difference in how we define "artist"

thats fair if thats how you feel

but there are a lot of legit artists who make art that i don't like, doesn't mean they aren't artists

again, you are taking the authoritarian view

i'm authoritarian because i define my terms differently?

because you are giving yourself the authority to take away legitimacy of others creations based on your own opinion

You're an authoritarian if you say I don't have a PHD in something I've never studied

but hey, if thats how you think, thats how you think

being a label isn't a status of legitimacy

if you dont like someone's creation and say they aren't an artist, you are taking away legitimacy. i dont understand what you are missing

So if i call you a pedophile, does that have any legitimacy too simply because i said it?

what

lol

ok

this convo has derailed

Its the same principle

If i have an opinion on someones qualifications of a label, theres no claim to any legitimacy

it reminds me of the not using pronouns debate

the mental gymnastics are too stronk for me

If I can use words however I want, and you can't take that away from me without being authoritarian