Message from @Joey4Track (POLEMIC HEART)

Discord ID: 480820713662709761


2018-08-19 19:26:12 UTC  

i'm not saying it bothers me, i don't care if people disagree with me on what is art 😄

2018-08-19 19:26:18 UTC  

Tim's new vid is fantastic. feels like he went on a little rant and i love it

2018-08-19 19:26:25 UTC  

are any of you with this view actually artists yourselves?

2018-08-19 19:26:26 UTC  

Oh Tim going mad again?

2018-08-19 19:26:38 UTC  

well, i mean the cortez one

2018-08-19 19:26:38 UTC  

depends on waht you label an artist

2018-08-19 19:26:44 UTC  

by your definition

2018-08-19 19:26:49 UTC  

i have a degree in mspaint

2018-08-19 19:27:20 UTC  

Well, I created one of those Bob Ross paintings once,

So if anything i'm a plagiarist? 😛

2018-08-19 19:27:33 UTC  

ok so you are not an artist

2018-08-19 19:27:39 UTC  

No i wouldn't consider myself an artist no

2018-08-19 19:27:42 UTC  

so i think you dont have a place to say

2018-08-19 19:28:02 UTC  

I make art, but i don't consider my work good enough to call myself an Artist

2018-08-19 19:28:20 UTC  

that sounds like self deprecation

2018-08-19 19:28:32 UTC  

self criticism

2018-08-19 19:28:38 UTC  

smells like appeal to authority fallacy to me

2018-08-19 19:28:49 UTC  

I work in an art-related field but I don't consider myself an artist. Clients tell me to make specific things and I get paid to do it, so more of a craftsman than anything.

2018-08-19 19:28:56 UTC  

there are no official qualifications to become an 'artist' that is the beauty of art

2018-08-19 19:29:02 UTC  

I'm not the one coming up with the ideas, just executing it

2018-08-19 19:29:33 UTC  

i just think its weird you are holding artists on some pedestal

2018-08-19 19:29:51 UTC  

cooking is an art

2018-08-19 19:29:56 UTC  

but I don't really have an issue with people calling anything art, my problem is mainly with those who will call one thing art and not another even though it's basically the same thing

2018-08-19 19:29:57 UTC  

I consider someone an artist, if the layman can't remake it

2018-08-19 19:30:18 UTC  

art isn't some magical unattainable thing only meant for a few

2018-08-19 19:30:32 UTC  

art itself is for the masses to enjoy,

"being an artist" is for the few

2018-08-19 19:30:51 UTC  

yes thats what i meant 'being an artist'

2018-08-19 19:31:12 UTC  

doesn't have to be some rare city of gold only for the few

2018-08-19 19:31:13 UTC  

imo

2018-08-19 19:31:41 UTC  

being a *good* artist is another story

2018-08-19 19:32:12 UTC  

art does not equal quality

2018-08-19 19:32:28 UTC  

and has nothing to do with the definition

2018-08-19 19:32:41 UTC  

well thats our difference then,

I consider "good artists" to just be artists, and people who arent "good artists", not to be artists

Its a difference in how we define "artist"

2018-08-19 19:32:59 UTC  

thats fair if thats how you feel

2018-08-19 19:33:18 UTC  

but there are a lot of legit artists who make art that i don't like, doesn't mean they aren't artists

2018-08-19 19:33:32 UTC  

again, you are taking the authoritarian view

2018-08-19 19:33:54 UTC  

i'm authoritarian because i define my terms differently?

2018-08-19 19:34:39 UTC  

because you are giving yourself the authority to take away legitimacy of others creations based on your own opinion

2018-08-19 19:34:51 UTC  

You're an authoritarian if you say I don't have a PHD in something I've never studied

2018-08-19 19:34:53 UTC  

but hey, if thats how you think, thats how you think

2018-08-19 19:35:07 UTC  

being a label isn't a status of legitimacy

2018-08-19 19:35:41 UTC  

if you dont like someone's creation and say they aren't an artist, you are taking away legitimacy. i dont understand what you are missing