Message from @Rickard

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2018-08-20 17:56:31 UTC  

both of those are kind of race conditions

2018-08-20 17:58:03 UTC  

while everyone was debating the 51% "problem", and scaling "problems" of the blockchain growth in GB, what everyone missed was that the protocol can only handle 7 transactions per second. fucking nobody talked about that, i had no idea, until after the transaction fees had been going crazy

2018-08-20 17:58:40 UTC  

and ive been doing bitcoin since 2013

2018-08-20 17:58:51 UTC  

fucking not a single debate about it

2018-08-20 17:59:46 UTC  

the blockchain size stopped being problem after they implemented pruning, where you only need 500mb of it

2018-08-20 18:00:13 UTC  

and the 51% thing seems incredibly overblown

2018-08-20 18:06:48 UTC  

after that i stopped advocating it to normies, because its gonna need to get the lightning network update and need to bake in the oven a couple of more years to sort out the issues

2018-08-20 18:07:40 UTC  

it's just software are the end of the day, it's not magic, and i used to think of it as magic

2018-08-20 18:08:26 UTC  

bitcoin was the first

2018-08-20 18:08:29 UTC  

many others have come

2018-08-20 18:08:50 UTC  

probably the definitive one isnt created yet

2018-08-20 18:09:03 UTC  

prehaps we gota see how they are adopted and how ppl abuse the systems

2018-08-20 18:09:11 UTC  

51% is only a problem if someone gets pretty crafty with malware.

2018-08-20 18:09:28 UTC  

or crafty with power

2018-08-20 18:09:54 UTC  

you'd need ownership of 51% of all machines processing transactions, more or less.

2018-08-20 18:09:56 UTC  

imgaine if a bunch of banks get together

2018-08-20 18:10:01 UTC  

do pull that bs off

2018-08-20 18:10:28 UTC  

with scale, you only get that power through malware

2018-08-20 18:10:35 UTC  

or maybe Microsoft

2018-08-20 18:11:19 UTC  

I wonder what percentage of the mining power resides in China with all the mining farms?

2018-08-20 18:12:26 UTC  

When governments set up restrictions on the national network, others create virtual and physical connections to override said restrictions.
I find it hard to believe that banks would be able to take control a a currency not created by them selfes.

2018-08-20 18:12:44 UTC  

The thing is that anyone looking to disrupt it would have to compete with multiple huge mining operations that have each already spent multiple millions

2018-08-20 18:13:17 UTC  

In addition to all the small timers

2018-08-20 18:13:21 UTC  

or just figure out how to remove the concept of mining

2018-08-20 18:13:27 UTC  

idk if you can

2018-08-20 18:13:54 UTC  

Other coins have been toying with proof of stake instead

2018-08-20 18:14:10 UTC  

back in 2013 the computing power of the bitcoin network was 256 times faster than the top 500 supercomputers combined
im still trying to find what it is now

2018-08-20 18:15:48 UTC  

I’m definitely interested to know what percentage of mining resides in China, because I know it’s huge and China is not exactly a freedom loving paradise

2018-08-20 18:16:49 UTC  

its 71%

2018-08-20 18:17:39 UTC  

well, still think the 51% is still overblown?

2018-08-20 18:17:48 UTC  

yeah

2018-08-20 18:18:42 UTC  

I would be slightly worried about China seizing mining operations but I don’t think that’s likely at all

2018-08-20 18:18:56 UTC  

Back of the mind though

2018-08-20 18:20:52 UTC  

However I think most big mining operations are running ASIC miners, and there are other currencies specifically tailored to GPU mining. If a Chinese takeover did happen then everyone could switch to one of those instead.

2018-08-20 18:21:08 UTC  

Most Bitcoins are allready mined anyways

2018-08-20 18:21:24 UTC  

i'm far more worried about how nations are managing their own currencies

2018-08-20 18:21:27 UTC  

the 21st millionth bitcoin will never be mined

2018-08-20 18:21:43 UTC  

17,220,962 are allready mined

2018-08-20 18:22:09 UTC  

Of course, there is also the transaction fee

2018-08-20 18:22:34 UTC  

well, you dont have to pay a transaction fee and you can choose how much, depending on urgency