controversial opinion: communism BAD

"So did the left want President Pence or did they just not think ahead?"

from experience and observation, they do not think ahead.

even post scarcity won't work, communism needs everyone to never try and gain authority

and its human nature to just want a little bit more

Communism could work in small scale. Small enough so that those who do not conform or no longer want to conform can leave the group without significant upset. But we are talking like town sized communities.

basically tribes or family units

well in real communism theres no heirarchy,

Sharing stuff works in small communities but theres still leaders

i imagine everyone deferring to someones judgement would not be considered a "heirarchy" to a communist.

... people wanna get rid of Drumpf but don’t understand they are bringing in Mike “Zap the Gay Away” Pence smh

as they did not take that power nor use force to keep it

so its basically a group decision to follow the advice of someone.

Actual communism is stateless

making them a leader without being given the official position as leader.

what is a state?

Socialism is the strongman leader stage that never leads to it

A hierarchical structure that effectively manages an area

@Beemann the left wants President Hillary Clinton and will settle for nothing less, constitution be damned.

Right but that can't happen

so a family unit is a state?

So they're fighting for Pence lol

No, a family unit takes care of itself

so does a state

It doesn't manage land or roads or taxes, a state does

a state is just a central authority of a community

so a family unit that has a home

At best a family unit in a modern context rents land from a state

remove what you think of as the state currently

a family is just a small scale state

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/405036251368914945/481771075735257088/SmartSelect_20180822-132416_Discord.jpg

you have a family unit, who has an area of land they have fenced in. they have pathways they maintain for moving about, plants to tend to, maintenance on the home, etc. There is also, usually, a hierarchy.

SPREAD THE BUS

>remove the subject of the conversation so we can argue semantics
No thanks fam

ffs

arguing semantics on the internet,

Thats just mandatory in every conversation 😛

so basically make up this entity, give it no parameters, and just say it exists.

This is getting right back to
>any sharing is communism lol

I've started "liberal arts college cringe posting" on Sargon's server where I'll try to post some cringy stuff every day. Do you want me to do it here as well

we call it the state, but what makes it different from the family unit in a fenced in area

i'm not remove the state from the equation, i'm trying to get you to accurately define it

The family unit manages only itself, the state manages the family and all other families

most people agree a family is not hte state, why?