Message from @Grenade123
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They call that socialism :^)
"If we separate all the murder into a separate stage it doesn't count"
Commies are that guy who rejoins the server to fix his k/d
true
doesn't work cuz after a while its bad anyway
Communism would need two things to work: total conformity in the rejection of private property , or a very advanced state of post-scarcity
The former is simply impossible because of free will, greed and egos of the humans
The latter may never happen because of exclusive items always existing and being in demand
Should we ever try? Can't we just settle down with something that already works? No?
Even then, social loafing undermines the overall system
And a centralized economy cannot be counted on for efficiency
controversial opinion: communism BAD
"So did the left want President Pence or did they just not think ahead?"
from experience and observation, they do not think ahead.
even post scarcity won't work, communism needs everyone to never try and gain authority
and its human nature to just want a little bit more
Communism could work in small scale. Small enough so that those who do not conform or no longer want to conform can leave the group without significant upset. But we are talking like town sized communities.
basically tribes or family units
well in real communism theres no heirarchy,
Sharing stuff works in small communities but theres still leaders
i imagine everyone deferring to someones judgement would not be considered a "heirarchy" to a communist.
... people wanna get rid of Drumpf but don’t understand they are bringing in Mike “Zap the Gay Away” Pence smh
so its basically a group decision to follow the advice of someone.
Actual communism is stateless
making them a leader without being given the official position as leader.
what is a state?
Socialism is the strongman leader stage that never leads to it
A hierarchical structure that effectively manages an area
@Beemann the left wants President Hillary Clinton and will settle for nothing less, constitution be damned.
Right but that can't happen
so a family unit is a state?
So they're fighting for Pence lol
No, a family unit takes care of itself
so does a state
It doesn't manage land or roads or taxes, a state does
a state is just a central authority of a community
so a family unit that has a home
At best a family unit in a modern context rents land from a state
remove what you think of as the state currently
a family is just a small scale state
you have a family unit, who has an area of land they have fenced in. they have pathways they maintain for moving about, plants to tend to, maintenance on the home, etc. There is also, usually, a hierarchy.