Heh, jumped a bit early posting this comment

Still, kinda dumb people are crucifying them for the standard business of throwing money at both sides.

I once read:

"The right doesn't want their money going to people they don't like. The left doesn't want *anybody's* money going to places they don't like"

Which is why the left rallies around funding planned parenthood (and the right tends to draw a line at just de-funding it) but the left will harass the banks to blacklist firearms manufacturers (see operation Choke Point and all the recent stuff from places like the NYTimes and Citibank)

It's very true. And a fundamental asymmetry.

@possumsquat93 pineapple contains bromelain which breaks down proteins. it can be used to tenderize meat.

you have been tenderized

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo8MINxpA8I

Watching YT political drama

@pratel the right will lose because it, like the Dwarves of Moria, fight defensively

@Atkins That doesn't sound like a bad side effect. Perhaps the pros outweigh the cons here.

fucking morons

I'm a receptionist at a sports facility

this phone call was not even five minutes ago

*Me: <company> how can I help you
Guy: How are your ice pads?
Me: ....I don't understand the question.
Guy: How are your ice pads, I mean it's hot outside and stuff.
Me: We have two indoor climate-controlled ice rinks sir, they are nice and frozen.
Guy: (click)
Me: Nice*

@Deadly Yeah, that's increasingly the conclusion I've been reaching myself. The left understands power. The right just talks about it.

If you want to fight for liberal principles be prepared to fight dirty

Yeah, and people aren't willing to do it.

You also have to be willing to turn every field into a battle ground.

The whole entry-ism into video games and the like is a classic playbook of the left.

Correct

They'll fight in every organization they think they have people for.

And make it as insufferable as they can to anyone who disagrees with them to inform the middle which stances are "tolerable" and which aren't.

I've actually been reading some left-wing organizing materials. Once you strip out all the politicking on top of it all, the right makes about politics not going over well are mirrored exactly. Except they've actually bothered to get over these issues and look to always expand their front and fight harder and dirtier.

The left is also much more unified, regardless of what people think and what they say.

They'll also say they don't really have principles if you can read between the lines the right way. It's all just power, "tolerance" and "democracy" (of which they are the sole representatives).

Yup yup

Thats funny as fuck mccains funeral

Instead of honoring mccain they choose to bash trump , basically they dont give a fuck about you mccain

Title IX is the best example. After a great deal of on-the-ground activism and establishing people into positions of influence, they pushed the campus rape argument and eventually got it to the Dept. of Ed. Obama threatened federal funding to any college that didn't further institutionalize the argument and "solve the problem."

DeVos eliminates the mandate (which based on all previous complaining would mean the Universities would go back to the situation before the original Title IX guidance).

The activists are still entrenched, and now hey hold positions of power in the administration. So they fight tooth and nail and attack the Dept. of Ed savagely. They march around telling people not to dare disturb them.

Not a single university changes it's policies.

Now DeVos is issuing new guidance. But at most they're going to open up room for lawsuits. They're not going for the jugular like Obama did. I doubt much will really change. The Unis have vast resources and strong legal teams. They'll just pay the odd legal fee than deal with the activists.

Despite all the complaining online There will not be an organized push to attack the universities for their decision to continue with the sexual assault tribunals. Everyone will just get used to the new normal.

The asymmetries are obvious.

One thing I think is actually a driver: the right rallies around the flag and tries to keep the institutions strong. The left segments itself into interest groups and plays the "you give us what we deserve or we burn the whole place down" game. They have no real loyalties except to each other.

The other big driver is that the left compulsively studies organization and tactics. After Jacobin launched and met success, they immediately launched a journal by the name of:

Catalyst: A Journal of Theory and Strategy

I still have yet to find anything on the right that is dedicated to serious discussion of organization for change or power.

Or calls for factional unity.

A common complaint among the left (and what intersectionality is designed to address) was the bad habit of their groups to factionalize upon finding success and tear apart their organizations. Or socialist organizations to stop promoting change and get caught up in purity spirals after they were able to drive out immediate challengers.

Compare to the bad habit of libertarians to get engaged in pointless "ancap versus left-leaning libertarian versus conservatarian versus socialist libertarian" purity spirals that go nowhere. Or the bad habit of the libertarian party to engage in increasingly pointless displays to show how transgressive they can be with each other (like walking on stage in the nude).

The broad not-left alliance needs to learn to put a boundary on what it wants and then organize *en masse* to assert power in the cultural institutions. Or everyone loses piece-by-piece.

@King Canuck where the fuck in Canada do you live? No one calls it an ice "pad"

Ontario

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Tim doesnt like mint choc chip ice cream... Im not sure we can trust this man anymore