o man

i wish i were a flat earther right now

i love a good challenge

@Rigg5 wanna try to convince me?

i think i do

but i'm pretty skeptical

well, i just think hard solipsism has no solution

i'd accept it so long as the premises are valid and the form is valid

yes rigg, i do

no

the sun's a lot bigger and brighter

and i've never seen a star in front of a sun

while a star can go behind the sun

i dunno what you mean by that

only planet i know of that acts like a floor through personal experience is earth

does the earth count?

it's an attributed explanation

based on inductive data

me too

i dont think to call it an assumption is accurate

there is empirical evidence from satellite data

and fact that the horizon moves when you are in a car and you drive

have you ever been in a car?

i mean going straight

for long distances

preferrably

have you noticed things far off in the distance you couldn't see before come into view?

have you noticed that objects far away near the horizon become much lower from the horizon when you get close to it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyN5aLRnZ-E

here, an 8 hour long car drive

going pretty straight

you can see that objects in the horizon get closer

what causes the refraction?

is the sun above or inside the atmosphere?

from which medium to which medium?

i don't think refraction can explain how much the horizon moves

refraction has a limit on how much the light will bend

if the earth is flat

why can't you climb a mountain in america

and see china?

you should be able to with a telescope

there's a lot of observatories on tops of mountains

yet none can see to other continents

well, you can see through the atmosphere

you know this cuz the sunlight comes through

https://imgur.com/l3pS5fc

the globe model believes the earth accelerates towards the sun

@tekashi in your communist system, how would you get people to build a bridge?

so, diffusion, not really a hard question

@tekashi how do you get people to work in a communist system?

what is their motivation?

and how do u get people to do the skilled/physically intensive labor required to build bridges?

moon, spherical, sun, spherical, planets in solar system, spherical @Mathieus the Walking Witness

uh, lighting effect on moons