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2019-08-03 01:54:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

Oh I'm so gonna take that last message out of context

2019-08-03 02:01:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

There is a definition for gravity

2019-08-03 02:02:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

The word was created to describe a phenomena

2019-08-03 02:02:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #lounge]  

So yeah we know what gravity is

2019-08-03 02:13:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It also opens up a new point

2019-08-03 02:13:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If helium holds air in place what holds helium in place?

2019-08-03 02:21:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I have a question

2019-08-03 02:21:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I haven't really done much research on the flat earth theory so forgive me but

2019-08-03 02:22:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Are there any strong evidence or theories to disprove the globe earth?

2019-08-03 02:23:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Or disproving it is mostly set on the bellief that those in power lie to us

2019-08-03 02:27:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The problem in trying to disprove gravity is that it is tied to several other theories and plays a big role in the model currently accepted by the scientific community, so disproving it doesn't mean to solely tackle it's existence but also the interactions it has with other theories (I don't know if I'm properly explaining my point, I apologize for the choice of words)

2019-08-03 02:30:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Gravity is also tied to magnetism and some objects have clearly observable magnetic properties, you would also need to sever the ties between gravity and magnetism

2019-08-03 02:36:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The same can be asked for a way to disprove it

2019-08-03 02:36:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I'm kinda curious

2019-08-03 02:36:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Not trying to base my argument on falacies

2019-08-03 02:38:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

As I said rivenator I don't want to set my argument on a falacy i just want to know what reason makes people doubt gravity in the first place

2019-08-03 02:38:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's mostly curiosity

2019-08-03 02:39:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You are totally twisting my question

2019-08-03 02:39:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Right now I'm not trying to prove anything

2019-08-03 02:39:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I just want to know what makes you doubt the existance of gravity

2019-08-03 02:40:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Well

2019-08-03 02:40:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Then it's all pure bellief

2019-08-03 02:41:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

There is nothing wrong with bellief but that is kinda hypocritical when you condemn globe earthers for their "blind bellief"

2019-08-03 02:42:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Newton

2019-08-03 02:44:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But you want people to prove gravity exists according to the flat Earth model?

2019-08-03 02:44:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

A model that doesn't even recognize gravity

2019-08-03 02:44:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And is built totally ditching it's effect?

2019-08-03 02:45:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I know what burden of proof means

2019-08-03 02:46:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Im just saying you can't expect people to prove the existance of something according to a model build around the premise that it doesn't exist

2019-08-03 02:47:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Newton

2019-08-03 02:48:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Newton introduced the idea of gravity

2019-08-03 02:48:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And also

2019-08-03 02:49:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Let me read that I'll go back to you

2019-08-03 02:55:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

My point is gravity plays a big part in the globe earth theory while it is totally ditched in the flat Earth theory

2019-08-03 02:57:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But you want people to prove the existance of gravity while basing on the flat Earth theory, a theory that was build around the premise that gravity isn't real in the first place

2019-08-03 02:57:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Proving gravity isn't as linear as you make it seem

2019-08-03 02:58:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Because your belliefs are against everything that gravity is set on

2019-08-03 02:58:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So if you deny the existance of the bases you can't expect people to prove it

2019-08-03 02:58:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's like building a house

2019-08-03 02:59:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You can't expect people to build the second floor without the first

2019-08-03 02:59:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Yes

2019-08-03 03:00:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But if he believes it unprovable he could tell us why and that way we can present why we believe it exists

2019-08-03 03:01:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But if he just believes it unprovable and leaves it to us to prove it without even telling us why he will always be able to say it's false

2019-08-03 03:04:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Arach

2019-08-03 03:04:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If they believe gravity to be false they should tell us why

2019-08-03 03:05:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That way we can actually come up with a way to prove it instead of having to come up with everything from scratch and just hope to hit the point they don't believe in

2019-08-03 03:05:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But they don't want to tell us why they don't believe in it

2019-08-03 03:06:29 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And we can't prove the existance of something they just blindly disprove in the first place

2019-08-03 03:07:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Oh my god

2019-08-03 03:07:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's like talking to a door

2019-08-03 03:07:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Can we explain the existance of gravity to a door?

2019-08-03 03:07:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Alright

2019-08-03 03:07:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Imma do it like this

2019-08-03 03:08:00 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I believe oxigen is fake

2019-08-03 03:08:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Explain why it is real

2019-08-03 03:08:30 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Look burden of proof up

2019-08-03 03:08:41 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You are getting nowhere my friend

2019-08-03 03:09:18 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You are just imposing your blind belliefs on other people and telling them to disprove them

2019-08-03 03:10:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Lmao

2019-08-03 03:10:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You are totally distorting our argument the way it fits yoy

2019-08-03 03:10:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

This is not a discussion

2019-08-03 03:10:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Arach it's not even worth it anymore

2019-08-03 03:10:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Let them have their superiority

2019-08-03 03:13:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

No he is just focusing on one detail of your argument and ignoring everything else

2019-08-03 03:14:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

They are basically throwing the fit of a 5 year old like "nhaaaa I say that gravity doesn't exist I don't need to tell other people why when sked simply because k have no reason to believe so but I just want it, nhaaaa now you have to prove to me why gravity exists without access to any of the bases gravity relies on nhaaaaa I'm such a superior human being and really capable of having a proper discussion envolving two parties"

2019-08-03 03:15:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

You can't force people to prove something you were never open to in the first place

2019-08-03 03:15:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And this ends it

2019-08-03 03:15:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I'm leaving too

2019-08-03 10:30:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

See, arguments between flat earth and globe earth theory will always be biased because the models are simply too far from each other and lay on totally different foundations, discussions opposing two completely different understandings of modern physics will only reach an understanding when people get tired of arguing and leave

2019-08-03 10:30:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But now

2019-08-03 10:32:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If you want to deny the existance of something and want people to prove it's existance you need to provide arguments to support your belliefs, if you leave it entirely to one side to prove something and then proceed to twist their argument in order to refute it you are basing your entire position on falacies and will never have a proper discussion

2019-08-03 10:33:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I would be totally interested in having discussions with people with different belliefs than mine but for what I have seen here is not the place

2019-08-03 11:17:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I wasn't talking about this specific discussion, its the one I was having here last night before sleeping

2019-08-03 16:32:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

One of the premises of the flat Earth theory is that gravity doesn't exist

2019-08-03 16:33:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And if they just say it doesn't exist without saying why we can't really explain it exists now can we?

2019-08-03 19:31:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I have a question

2019-08-03 19:31:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If the Earth is flat

2019-08-03 19:31:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Why is does it get colder the further north or south you move but not the further east or west?

2019-08-03 19:32:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I'm not trying to attack or make fun of anyone

2019-08-03 19:32:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I just want to know if you have a way to explain it

2019-08-03 19:34:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But it doesn't

2019-08-03 19:37:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Temperature is affected by longitude, altitude, existing flora and distance to the ocean

2019-08-03 19:50:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I have an image of today's temperature around the world from climatereanalizer.org but i don't have the permissions to send it

2019-08-03 19:52:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

There

2019-08-03 19:52:24 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It's today's weather map

2019-08-03 19:52:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

By the climate change institute of the university of maine

2019-08-03 19:52:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Lol?

2019-08-03 19:53:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I don't understand

2019-08-03 19:54:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I don't think anyone plans on replying to my question

2019-08-03 19:57:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I want to know why longitude affects temperature but latitude doesn't

2019-08-03 19:58:09 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I sent a temperature map above for those asking for a... link?

2019-08-03 20:27:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

No they don't believe in gravity

2019-08-03 20:28:35 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Rn I just want to know why temperature doesn't vary with longitude if the Earth is flat

2019-08-03 20:28:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But they are ignoring my question cause they have no answer

2019-08-03 20:29:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And we are all probably gonna get banned

2019-08-03 22:44:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Lmao

2019-08-03 22:45:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It would be more plausible if you said the sky is a projection

2019-08-03 22:45:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That doesn't make sense

2019-08-03 22:45:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

At all

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